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From: "Mihai Donțu" <mdontu@bitdefender.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Adalbert Lazar" <alazar@bitdefender.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/1] kvm: Add documentation and ABI/API header for VM introspection
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 14:51:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1500378662.5720.38.camel@bitdefender.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <181883b2-75fe-d1b9-557d-c92d27f82b81@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2017-07-13 at 09:32 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 13/07/2017 07:57, Mihai Donțu wrote:
> > > Actually it makes more sense for SKIP, I think, where the introspector
> > > is actually doing emulation?
> > 
> > I'm afraid I don't undestand your question, however we were looking at
> > using KVM's x86 emulator rather than putting together our own, as such
> > software might be fun to write but they take a very long time to get
> > right. I'd argue that KVM's emulator has already seen a lot of
> > coverage.
> 
> Of course!  But there could be some special cases (e.g. hypercalls)
> where you do emulation on your own.  In that case, KVMI_SET_REGS + SKIP
> is the right thing to do.

I think I finally understand what you're saying. That SKIP would tell
the introspection subsystem to just write back the registers and enter
the guest, no in-host emulation needed. So, to reiterate, the possible
actions would be:

 * SKIP - re-enter the guest (the introspection tool has adjusted all
   registers)
 * RETRY - re-enter the guest
 * ALLOW - use the emulator
 * CRASH - kill the guest process

It seems that SKIP requires a variant of KVMI_SET_REGS (_FULL?) that
sets all registers that might have been affected by the emulation
(control, MSR-s, MMX/SSE/AVX). I guess there can be an usecase for
that. It also looks like its identical with KVMI_SET_REGS_FULL + RETRY.

> > In the future we are looking at maybe moving away from it on Intel-s,
> > by way of VMFUNC and #VE.
> > 
> > > But why is KVMI_SET_REGS slower than a set regs command followed by an
> > > action?
> > 
> > To be honest, we just looked at the Xen implementation which gates
> > writing back the registers to VMCS on them actually having been
> > changed.
> 
> That would be possible on KVMI too.  Just don't do the KVMI_SET_REGS
> unless the registers have changed.

-- 
Mihai Donțu

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-18 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-07 14:34 [RFC PATCH v2 0/1] VM introspection Adalbert Lazar
2017-07-07 14:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/1] kvm: Add documentation and ABI/API header for " Adalbert Lazar
2017-07-07 16:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-10 15:32     ` alazar
2017-07-10 17:03       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-11 16:48         ` Adalbert Lazar
2017-07-11 16:51           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-13  5:57             ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-13  7:32               ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-18 11:51                 ` Mihai Donțu [this message]
2017-07-18 12:02                   ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-23 13:02                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-26 17:04                     ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-26 17:25                       ` Tamas K Lengyel
2017-07-27 14:41                         ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-27 13:33                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-27 14:46                         ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-13  8:36     ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-13  9:15       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-27 16:23         ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-27 16:52           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-27 17:19             ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-01 10:40               ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-01 16:33                 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2017-08-01 20:47                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-02 11:52                     ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-02 12:27                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-02 13:32                         ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-02 13:51                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-02 14:17                             ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-04  8:35                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-04 15:29                                 ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-04 15:37                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-05  8:00                                   ` Andrei Vlad LUTAS
2017-08-07 12:18                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-07 13:25                                       ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-07 13:49                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-07 14:12                                           ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-07 15:56                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-07 16:44                                               ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-02 13:53                           ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-27 17:06     ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-27 17:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-07 17:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/1] " Paolo Bonzini
2017-08-07 15:28   ` Mihai Donțu
2017-08-07 15:44     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-12 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-13  5:37   ` Mihai Donțu
2017-07-14 16:13     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-07-18  8:55       ` Mihai Donțu

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