Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better performance"

From: Koichiro Den <den@klaipeden.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] Revert "vhost: cache used event for better performance"
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 01:12:26 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1502640746.3547.3.camel@klaipeden.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1502633460.3547.1.camel@klaipeden.com>

Sorry I mistakenly focused on NET case, please pass it over. I will do any
relevant suggestion in patch-based way. Thanks.

On Sun, 2017-08-13 at 23:11 +0900, Koichiro Den wrote:
> Thanks for your comments, Michael and Jason. And I'm sorry about late
> response.
> To be honest, I am on a summer vacation until next Tuesday.
> 
> I noticed that what I wrote was not sufficient. Regardless of caching
> mechanism
> existence, the "event" could legitimately be at any point out of the latest
> interval, which vhost_notify checks it against, meaning that if it's out of
> the
> interval we cannot distinguish whether or not it lags behind or has a
> lead. And
> it seems to conform to the spec. Thanks for leading me to the spec. The corner
> case I point out here is:
> (0) event idx feature turned on + TX napi turned off
> -> (1) guest-side TX traffic bursting occurs and delayed callback set
> -> (2) some interruption triggers skb_xmit_done
> -> (3) guest-side modest traffic makes the interval proceed to unbounded
> extent
> without updating "event" since NO_INTERRUPT continues to be set on its shadow
> flag.
> 
> IMHO, if you plan to make TX napi the only choice, doing this sort of
> optimisation beforehand seems likely to be in vain.
> 
> So, if the none-TX napi case continues to coexist, what I would like to
> suggest
> is not just the sort of my last email, but like making maximum staleness of
> "event" less than or equal to vq.num, and afterward caching suggestion.
> Otherwise, I guess I should not repost my last email since it would make
> matters
>  too complicated even though it will soon be removed when TX-napi becomes the
> only choice.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2017-08-09 at 07:37 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 10:38:10AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > I think don't think current code can work well if vq.num is grater than
> > > 2^15. Since all cached idx is u16. This looks like a bug which needs to be
> > > fixed.
> > 
> > That's a limitation of virtio 1.0.
> > 
> > > > * else if the interval of vq.num is [2^15, 2^16):
> > > > the logic in the original patch (809ecb9bca6a9) suffices
> > > > * else (= less than 2^15) (optional):
> > > > checking only (vring_need_event(vq->last_used_event, new + vq->num, new)
> > > > would suffice.
> > > > 
> > > > Am I missing something, or is this irrelevant?
> > 
> > Could you pls repost the suggestion copying virtio-dev mailing list
> > (subscriber only, sorry about that, but host/guest ABI discussions
> > need to copy that list)?
> > 
> > > Looks not, I think this may work. Let me do some test.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > 
> > I think that at this point it's prudent to add a feature bit
> > as the virtio spec does not require to never move the event index back.
> > 

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