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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	KarimAllah Ahmed <karahmed@amazon.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Janakarajan Natarajan <Janakarajan.Natarajan@amd.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.or
Subject: Re: [RFC 05/10] x86/speculation: Add basic IBRS support infrastructure
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 09:02:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1516784541.13558.90.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180124084735.GM2228@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

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On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 09:47 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Typically tglx likes to use x86_match_cpu() for these things; see also
> commit: bd9240a18edfb ("x86/apic: Add TSC_DEADLINE quirk due to
> errata").

Thanks, will fix. I think we might also end up in whitelist mode,
adding "known good" microcodes to the list as they get released or
retroactively blessed.

I would really have liked a new bit in IA32_ARCH_CAPABILITIES to say
that it's safe, but that's not possible for *existing* microcode which
actually turns out to be OK in the end.

That means the whitelist ends up basically empty right now. Should I
add a command line parameter to override it? Otherwise we end up having
to rebuild the kernel every time there's a microcode release which
covers a new CPU SKU (which is why I kind of hate the whitelist, but
Arjan is very insistent...)

I'm kind of tempted to turn it into a whitelist just by adding 1 to the
microcode revision in each table entry. Sure, that N+1 might be another
microcode build that also has issues but never saw the light of day...
but that's OK as long it never *does*. And yes we'd have to tweak it if
revisions that are blacklisted in the Intel doc are subsequently
cleared. But at least it'd require *less* tweaking.

> > 
> > +
> > +static int bad_spectre_microcode(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
> > +{
> > +	int i;
> > +
> > +	for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(spectre_bad_microcodes); i++) {
> > +		if (c->x86_model == spectre_bad_microcodes[i].model &&
> > +		    c->x86_mask == spectre_bad_microcodes[i].stepping)
> > +			return (c->microcode <= spectre_bad_microcodes[i].microcode);
> > +	}
> > +	return 0;
> > +}
> The above is Intel only, you should check vendor too I think.

It's in intel.c, called from early_init_intel(). Isn't that sufficient?

> > 
> >  static void early_init_intel(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
> >  {
> >  	u64 misc_enable;
> > @@ -122,6 +173,18 @@ static void early_init_intel(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
> >  	if (c->x86 >= 6 && !cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_IA64))
> >  		c->microcode = intel_get_microcode_revision();
> >  
> > +	if ((cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_SPEC_CTRL) ||
> > +	     cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_AMD_SPEC_CTRL) ||
> > +	     cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_AMD_PRED_CMD) ||
> > +	     cpu_has(c, X86_FEATURE_AMD_STIBP)) && bad_spectre_microcode(c)) {
> > +		pr_warn("Intel Spectre v2 broken microcode detected; disabling SPEC_CTRL\n");
> > +		clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_SPEC_CTRL);
> > +		clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_STIBP);
> > +		clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_AMD_SPEC_CTRL);
> > +		clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_AMD_PRED_CMD);
> > +		clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_AMD_STIBP);
> > +	}
> And since its Intel only, what are those AMD features doing there?

Hypervisors which only want to expose PRED_CMD may do so using the AMD
feature bit. SPEC_CTRL requires save/restore and live migration
support, and isn't needed with retpoline anyway (since guests won't be
calling directly into firmware).


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-24  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-20 19:22 [RFC 00/10] Speculation Control feature support KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 19:22 ` [RFC 01/10] x86/speculation: Add basic support for IBPB KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 19:22 ` [RFC 02/10] x86/kvm: Add IBPB support KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 20:18   ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-22 18:56   ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-22 19:31     ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-20 19:22 ` [RFC 03/10] x86/speculation: Use Indirect Branch Prediction Barrier in context switch KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 19:22 ` [RFC 04/10] x86/mm: Only flush indirect branches when switching into non dumpable process KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 21:06   ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-22 18:29     ` Tim Chen
2018-01-21 11:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-21 12:04     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-21 14:07       ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-22 10:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-22 10:23         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-21 16:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-21 16:25       ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-21 22:20       ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-29  6:35     ` Jon Masters
2018-01-29 14:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-20 19:22 ` [RFC 05/10] x86/speculation: Add basic IBRS support infrastructure KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-21 14:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-21 14:56     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-22  9:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-22 12:06         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-22 13:30           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-22 13:36             ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-21 15:25     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 20:58     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-24  8:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-24  9:02         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-01-24  9:10           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-24 15:09             ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-24 15:18               ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-24  9:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-24 10:49           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2018-01-24 12:30             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-24 12:14         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-24 12:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-24 12:58             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 20:14   ` [RFC,05/10] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-29 20:17     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 20:42       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-29 20:44         ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-29 21:02           ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 21:37             ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-29 21:50               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-29 22:12                 ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-30  1:22                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-29 22:25                 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-30  1:37                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-29 21:37             ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-29 21:44             ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-29 22:10               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-30  1:12                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-30  0:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-30  1:03               ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-30  3:13                 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-31 15:03                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-31 15:07                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-30  1:32               ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-30  3:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-30 12:04                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-30 13:54                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-30  8:22               ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-30 11:35               ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-30 11:56               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-30 12:11               ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-01-30 14:46                 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2018-01-30 14:52                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-01-30 14:56                     ` Christophe de Dinechin
2018-01-30 15:33                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-01-30 20:46               ` Alan Cox
2018-01-31 10:05                 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2018-01-31 10:15                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-31 11:04                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-31 11:52                       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-31 12:30                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-31 13:18                           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-31 14:04                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-31 14:44                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-31 16:28                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-31 11:07                     ` Christophe de Dinechin
2018-01-31 15:00                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-31 15:11                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-31 10:03   ` [RFC 05/10] " Christophe de Dinechin
2018-01-20 19:22 ` [RFC 06/10] x86/speculation: Add inlines to control Indirect Branch Speculation KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 19:22 ` [RFC 07/10] x86: Simplify spectre_v2 command line parsing KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 19:22 ` [RFC 08/10] x86/idle: Control Indirect Branch Speculation in idle KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-20 19:23 ` [RFC 09/10] x86/enter: Create macros to restrict/unrestrict Indirect Branch Speculation KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-21 19:14   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-23 16:12     ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-23 16:20       ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-23 22:37         ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-23 22:49           ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-23 23:14             ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-23 23:22               ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-24  0:47               ` Tim Chen
2018-01-24  1:00                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-24  1:22                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-24  1:59                   ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-24  3:25                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]   ` <CA+55aFxUEPHc7JRQG3zmxEsfmfJOiJa1QqFBKCBNb5Tt5vfiSg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-01-21 20:28     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-21 21:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-21 22:00         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-21 22:27           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-22 16:27             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23  7:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23  7:53                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23  9:27                   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23  9:37                     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 15:01                     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-23  9:30                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 10:15                     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23 10:27                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 10:44                         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-23 10:23                     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-04 18:43                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-04 20:22                         ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-06  9:14                         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 20:16       ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-20 19:23 ` [RFC 10/10] x86/enter: Use IBRS on syscall and interrupts KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-21 13:50   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-21 14:40     ` KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-01-21 17:22     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-21 14:02 ` [RFC 00/10] Speculation Control feature support Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-22 21:27   ` David Woodhouse
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-29 22:29 [RFC,05/10] x86/speculation: Add basic IBRS support infrastructure David Dunn
2018-01-29 22:41 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-29 22:49   ` Jim Mattson
2018-01-30  1:10     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-30  1:20       ` David Dunn
2018-01-30  1:30         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-01-29 23:51 ` Fred Jacobs
2018-01-30  1:08 ` Eduardo Habkost

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