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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	mhillenb@amazon.de, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:19:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1531815548.19223.23.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180716154015.GA21419@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

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On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 08:40 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> Most of the weekend was devoted to testing today's upcoming pull request,
> but I did get a bit more testing done on this.
> 
> I was able to make this happen more often by tweaking rcutorture a
> bit, but I still do not yet have statistically significant results.
> Nevertheless, I have thus far only seen failures with David's patch or
> with both David's and my patch.  And I actually got a full-up rcutorture
> failure (a too-short grace period) in addition to the aforementioned
> close calls.
> 
> Over this coming week I expect to devote significant testing time to
> the commit just prior to David's in my stack.  If I don't see failures
> on that commit, we will need to spent some quality time with the KVM
> folks on whether or not kvm_x86_ops->run() and friends have the option of
> failing to return, but instead causing control to pop up somewhere else.
> Or someone could tell me how I am being blind to some obvious bug in
> the two commits that allow RCU to treat KVM guest-OS execution as an
> extended quiescent state.  ;-)

One thing we can try, if my patch is implicated, is moving the calls to
rcu_kvm_en{ter,xit} closer to the actual VM entry. Let's try putting
them around the large asm block in arch/x86/kvm/vmx.c::vmx_vcpu_run()
for example. If that fixes it, then we know we've missed something else
interesting that's happening in the middle.

Testing on Skylake shows a guest CPUID goes from ~3000 cycles to ~3500
with this patch, so in the next iteration it definitely needs to be
ifdef CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL anyway, because it's actually required there
(AFAICT) and it's too expensive otherwise as Christian pointed out.

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2018-07-11 17:03                     ` [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 17:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:01                         ` [PATCH v2] kvm/x86: Inform RCU of quiescent state when entering guest mode David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 18:20                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:36                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:39                               ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 20:27                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 20:54                                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 21:09                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 21:11                                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 21:32                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 21:39                                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 23:47                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  8:31                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 11:00                                             ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12 11:10                                               ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 11:58                                                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12 12:04                                                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 23:37                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  2:15                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  6:21                                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12  9:52                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 18:31                       ` [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 20:17                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 20:19                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 21:08                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12 12:00                               ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 12:53                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12 16:17                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-16 15:40                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-17  8:19                                       ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-07-17 12:56                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 15:36                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 16:01                                             ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-18 16:37                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 19:41                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-18 20:17                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  0:26                                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19  6:45                                                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-19  7:20                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 10:23                                                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-19 12:55                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19 13:14                                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19 13:36                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 17:09                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-23  8:08                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-23 12:22                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  0:32                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19  3:11                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  6:16                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 13:17                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19 13:15                           ` Frederic Weisbecker

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