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From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: "Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@amd.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, pgonda@google.com,
	seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 04/13] x86/sev: Change TSC MSR behavior for Secure TSC enabled guests
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:29:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15e82ca3-9166-cdb4-7d66-e1c6600919d7@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0477b378-aa35-4a68-9ff6-308aada2e790@amd.com>

On 12/9/24 23:02, Nikunj A. Dadhania wrote:
> On 12/9/2024 9:27 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 02:30:36PM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
>>> Secure TSC enabled guests should not write to MSR_IA32_TSC(10H) register as
>>> the subsequent TSC value reads are undefined.
>>
>> What does that mean exactly?
> 
> That is the warning from the APM: 15.36.18 Secure TSC
> 
> "Guests that run with Secure TSC enabled are not expected to perform writes to
> the TSC MSR (10h). If such a write occurs, subsequent TSC values read are
> undefined."
> 
> What I make out of it is: if a write is performed to the TSC MSR, subsequent
> reads of TSC is not reliable/trusted.
> 
> That was the reason to ignore such writes in the #VC handler.
> 
>>
>> I'd prefer if we issued a WARN_ONCE() there on the write to catch any
>> offenders.
> 
> Do you also want to terminate the offending guest?
> 
> ES_UNSUPPORTED return will do that.
> 
>>
>> *NO ONE* should be writing the TSC MSR but that's a different story.
>>
>> IOW, something like this ontop of yours?
>>
>> ---
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/coco/sev/core.c b/arch/x86/coco/sev/core.c
>> index c22cb2ea4b99..050170eb28e6 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/coco/sev/core.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/coco/sev/core.c
>> @@ -1443,9 +1443,15 @@ static enum es_result __vc_handle_msr_tsc(struct pt_regs *regs, bool write)
>>  {
>>  	u64 tsc;
>>  
>> -	if (write)
>> -		return ES_OK;
>> +	if (!(sev_status & MSR_AMD64_SNP_SECURE_TSC))
>> +		goto read_tsc;
> 
> This is changing the behavior for SEV-ES and SNP guests(non SECURE_TSC), TSC MSR
> reads are converted to RDTSC. This is a good optimization. But just wanted to
> bring up the subtle impact.

Right, I think it should still flow through the GHCB MSR request for
non-Secure TSC guests.

> 
>> +
>> +	if (write) {
>> +		WARN_ONCE(1, "TSC MSR writes are verboten!\n");
>> +		return ES_UNSUPPORTED;
> 
> Sure, we can add a WARN_ONCE().

You'll want to test this... IIRC, I'm not sure if a WARN_ONCE() will be
properly printed when issued within the #VC handler (since it will
generate a nested #VC).

Thanks,
Tom

> 
>> +	}
>>  
>> +read_tsc:
>>  	tsc = rdtsc_ordered();
>>  	regs->ax = lower_32_bits(tsc);
>>  	regs->dx = upper_32_bits(tsc);
>> @@ -1462,11 +1468,14 @@ static enum es_result vc_handle_msr(struct ghcb *ghcb, struct es_em_ctxt *ctxt)
>>  	/* Is it a WRMSR? */
>>  	write = ctxt->insn.opcode.bytes[1] == 0x30;
>>  
>> -	if (regs->cx == MSR_SVSM_CAA)
>> +	switch(regs->cx) {
> 
> Yes, I was thinking about a switch, as there will be more such instances when we
> enable newer features.
> 
>> +	case MSR_SVSM_CAA:
>>  		return __vc_handle_msr_caa(regs, write);
>> -
>> -	if (regs->cx == MSR_IA32_TSC && (sev_status & MSR_AMD64_SNP_SECURE_TSC))
>> +	case MSR_IA32_TSC:
>>  		return __vc_handle_msr_tsc(regs, write);
>> +	default:
>> +		break;
>> +	}
>>  
>>  	ghcb_set_rcx(ghcb, regs->cx);
>>  	if (write) {
>>
> 
> Regards,
> Nikunj

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-10 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-03  9:00 [PATCH v15 00/13] Add Secure TSC support for SNP guests Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 01/13] x86/sev: Carve out and export SNP guest messaging init routines Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-03 14:19   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03 14:35     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03 14:50       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03 14:52         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-04  9:30     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-04 10:00     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-04 20:02       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-05  6:23         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-06 20:27           ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-07  0:27             ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-12-09 15:36               ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-09  6:16             ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-09 15:38               ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10  6:38                 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2025-01-04 19:06   ` Francesco Lavra
2025-01-06  4:14     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 02/13] x86/sev: Relocate SNP guest messaging routines to common code Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-04 20:20   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-05  6:25     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 03/13] x86/sev: Add Secure TSC support for SNP guests Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-05 11:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-06  4:19     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-16 16:06   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-17  6:12     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2025-01-04 20:26   ` Francesco Lavra
2025-01-06  4:34     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 04/13] x86/sev: Change TSC MSR behavior for Secure TSC enabled guests Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-09 15:57   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10  5:02     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-10 11:43       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 16:44         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-10 14:29       ` Tom Lendacky [this message]
2024-12-10 16:59         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-11 19:00         ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-11 22:01           ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-11 22:22             ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-11 22:43               ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 05/13] x86/sev: Prevent RDTSC/RDTSCP interception " Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-10 11:53   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 06/13] x86/sev: Prevent GUEST_TSC_FREQ MSR " Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-10 12:11   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 17:13     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-10 17:18       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-12  4:53         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-17 10:57           ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-18  5:20             ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-24 11:53               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-01  8:44                 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-01 16:10                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02  5:03                     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02  9:07                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02  9:30                         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02 14:45                           ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-02 14:54                             ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 17:22       ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 07/13] x86/sev: Mark Secure TSC as reliable clocksource Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-11 20:32   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-12  5:07     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 08/13] x86/cpu/amd: Do not print FW_BUG for Secure TSC Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-17 11:10   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-18  5:21     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 09/13] tsc: Use the GUEST_TSC_FREQ MSR for discovering TSC frequency Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-16 16:31   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-17  6:27     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-17  7:05       ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-17  7:57         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-30 11:29   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-01  8:56     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-01 16:15       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02  5:10         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02  9:17           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 10:01             ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02 10:45               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 13:10                 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-03 12:04                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 13:59                     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-04 10:28                       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 10/13] tsc: Upgrade TSC clocksource rating Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-30 11:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02  5:20     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02  9:32       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 10:09         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-03 12:06           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 14:03             ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 11/13] tsc: Switch to native sched clock Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 12/13] x86/kvmclock: Abort SecureTSC enabled guest when kvmclock is selected Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-16 16:36   ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-30 17:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-01  9:44     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-01 16:19       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02  5:34         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02  9:25           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 10:06             ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03  9:00 ` [PATCH v15 13/13] x86/sev: Allow Secure TSC feature for SNP guests Nikunj A Dadhania

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