From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 7/9] Virtual network guest device driver Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:20:02 +0100 Message-ID: <20070523122001.GA19699@infradead.org> References: <46524A79.8070004@codemonkey.ws> <46527CD9.5000603@qumranet.com> <20070522125655.GA4506@infradead.org> <465306AE.5080902@codemonkey.ws> <13426df10705221000i749badc5h8afe4f2fc95bc2ce@mail.gmail.com> <20070522170628.GA16624@infradead.org> <465430B2.7050101@qumranet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jimi Xenidis , "jmk-zzFmDc4TPjtKvsKVC3L/VUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org" , Christian Borntraeger , mschwid2-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org, Christoph Hellwig , Suzanne McIntosh , kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org To: Avi Kivity Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <465430B2.7050101-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: kvm-devel-bounces-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org Errors-To: kvm-devel-bounces-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org List-Id: kvm.vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 03:16:50PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote: > Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 10:00:42AM -0700, ron minnich wrote: > > > >> On 5/22/07, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > >> > >> > >>> I'm not opposed to supporting emulation environments, just don't make > >>> a large pile of crap the default like Xen -- and having to integrate > >>> PCI probing code in my guest domains is a large pile of crap. > >>> > >> Exactly. I'm about to start a pretty large project here, using xen or > >> kvm, not sure. One thing for sure, we are NOT going to use anything > >> but PV devices. Full emulation is nice, but it's just plain silly if > >> you don't have to do it. And we don't have to do it. So let's get the > >> PV devices right, not try to shoehorn them into some framework like > >> PCI. > >> > > > > If you don't care about full virtualization kvm is the wrong project for > > you. You might want to take a look at lguest. > > > > > > This is incorrect. While kvm started out as a full virtualization > project, it will expand with I/O PV and core PV. Eventually most of the > paravirt_ops interface will have a kvm implementation. The statement above was a little misworded I think. It should have been a "if you care about pure PV ..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/