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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
To: qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure -	take2
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:10:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070819131042.GA22798@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46C7FE32.4050309-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>>In this case the dyn-tick minimum res will be 1msec. I believe it should
> >>>work ok since this is the case without any dyn-tick.
> >>>      
> >>Actually minimum resolution depends on host HZ setting, but - yes -
> >>essentially you have the same behaviour of the "unix" timer, plus the
> >>overhead of reprogramming the timer. 
> >>    
> >
> >Is this significant?  At a high guest HZ, this is could be quite a lot
> >of additional syscalls right?
> >
> At HZ=1000, this adds a small multiple of 1000 syscalls, which is a 
> fairly small overhead.

Small, but maybe measurable.

That overhead could be removed if the dyn-tick code were to
predictively set the host timer into a repeating mode when guests do
actually require a regular tick.

I'm thinking when it detects it needed a tick a small number of times
in a row, with the same interval, it could set the host timer to
trigger repeatedly at that interval.  Then it wouldn't need to reprogram
if that stayed the same (except maybe to correct for drift?)

If a tick then _wasn't_ required for that interval (i.e. it was
required for less, more, or not at all), then it would have to
reprogram the host timer.  If it really mattered, it wouldn't have to
reprogram the host timer when the next required tick is further in the
future or not at all; it would simply be a redundant SIGALRM.  In
weird cases that's worthwhile, but I suspect it generally isn't.

-- Jamie

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-19 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-17 23:11 [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure - take 2 Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-17 23:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-17 23:11 ` [PATCH 2/4] Add -clock option Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-17 23:11 ` [PATCH 3/4] Add support for HPET periodic timer Luca Tettamanti
     [not found]   ` <20070817231406.493008599-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 19:24     ` [Qemu-devel] " Matthew Kent
2007-08-21 19:40       ` Luca
     [not found]         ` <68676e00708211240k7237bf21k131257dd28063d26-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 20:15           ` Matthew Kent
2007-08-22  6:48             ` Dan Kenigsberg
     [not found]               ` <20070822064851.GA16295-RO/WWmT55CHJJbofclyLPCHBx9XpghdU@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22  7:03                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                   ` <46CBDFC4.5060207-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 12:34                     ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                       ` <20070822123424.GK2642-KvMlXPVkKihbpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 21:11                         ` Dan Kenigsberg
     [not found]                           ` <20070822211150.GA22093-RO/WWmT55CHJJbofclyLPCHBx9XpghdU@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 22:09                             ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                               ` <20070822220947.GK8058-KvMlXPVkKihbpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-23  7:02                                 ` Dan Kenigsberg
     [not found]                                   ` <20070823070230.GA24942-RO/WWmT55CHJJbofclyLPCHBx9XpghdU@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-24 20:18                                     ` Luca
2007-08-17 23:11 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add support for dynamic ticks Luca Tettamanti
     [not found] ` <20070817231149.544849769-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-17 23:48   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure - take 2 Christian MICHON
     [not found]     ` <46d6db660708171648m3a798685q6514261bc097bc62-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-18  0:10       ` Luca
2007-08-18 15:17   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-08-18 16:53     ` [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure - take2 Dor Laor
     [not found]     ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160D4645F0@ehost011-8.exch011.intermedia.net>
     [not found]       ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160D4645F0-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-18 22:02         ` Luca Tettamanti
     [not found]           ` <20070818220252.GA19526-sTXFmx6KbOnUXq0IF5SVAZ4oGUkBHcCu@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-18 23:58             ` Anthony Liguori
2007-08-19  7:36               ` [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure -take2 Dor Laor
2007-08-19  8:24               ` [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure - take2 Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <46C7FE32.4050309-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-19 13:10                   ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <20070819131042.GA22798-tp2ajI7sM85Y6zH9YvfY1x2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-19 13:48                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <46C84A16.7040305-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-19 13:57                           ` Paul Brook
     [not found]                             ` <200708191457.21237.paul-qD8j1LwMmJjtCj0u4l0SBw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-19 14:07                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                 ` <46C84E95.7070802-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-19 14:27                                   ` Dor Laor
2007-08-20  9:25                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-19 17:15                               ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                                 ` <20070819171545.GB16928-tp2ajI7sM85Y6zH9YvfY1x2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-19 19:29                                   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarmtimer " Dor Laor
2007-08-19 19:30                                   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer " Avi Kivity
2007-08-19 16:52             ` Luca
     [not found]               ` <68676e00708190952g7d4751c2g87a6ff71dd278f71-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-19 19:31                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                   ` <46C89A8E.7040609-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-20 21:20                     ` Luca Tettamanti
     [not found]                       ` <20070820212058.GA6713-sTXFmx6KbOnUXq0IF5SVAZ4oGUkBHcCu@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-20 21:55                         ` [Qemu-devel] " malc
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708210140540.16421-KsBd/I2zj1m2ZGm1qqSgDg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-20 22:49                             ` Luca
2007-08-21 12:09                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                           ` <46CAD607.2080504-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 19:38                             ` Luca Tettamanti
     [not found]                               ` <20070821193834.GB13544-sTXFmx6KbOnUXq0IF5SVAZ4oGUkBHcCu@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 19:44                                 ` malc
2007-08-22  5:02                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                   ` <46CBC34F.6060601-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 16:12                                     ` Luca Tettamanti
     [not found]                                       ` <20070822161211.GA30147-sTXFmx6KbOnUXq0IF5SVAZ4oGUkBHcCu@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 16:21                                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                           ` <46CC6285.3090904-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 16:38                                             ` Luca
     [not found]                                               ` <68676e00708220938y57c07edas705fc8360aefcb78-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 16:45                                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <46CC680C.1030307-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 17:23                                                     ` Luca
     [not found]                                                       ` <68676e00708221023m352c2de3y3b19188dbb9ef49e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 17:39                                                         ` Luca
2007-08-22 19:21                                                         ` Luca
     [not found]                                                           ` <68676e00708221221n6f8fcd67m9d15f7fea663ec71-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 21:35                                                             ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                                                               ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160D5042F3-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 22:07                                                                 ` Luca
2007-08-22 20:42                                                 ` Dan Kenigsberg

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