Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Werner Opriel]

Version:
kvm-50 and kvm-51

Problem:
I am not able to install a Win XP SP2 guest.
The Guest always crashes while installing Windows XP devices at T-37 minutes
with a blue-screen and IRQL_NOT_LES_OR_EQUAL.

cat /proc/cpuinfo:
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 15
model           : 107
model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350
stepping        : 1
cpu MHz         : 1000.000
cache size      : 512 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 2
core id         : 0
cpu cores       : 2
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp 
lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 
misalignsse
bogomips        : 2005.82
TLB size        : 1024 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps

processor       : 1
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 15
model           : 107
model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350
stepping        : 1
cpu MHz         : 1000.000
cache size      : 512 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 2
core id         : 1
cpu cores       : 2
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp 
lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 
misalignsse
bogomips        : 2005.82
TLB size        : 1024 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps

uname -r -m -o -s:
Linux 2.6.22.9 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Guest:
Windows XP SP2 32bit 

Installation with:
qemu-system-x86_64 -hda xp.img -cdrom /iso/xp.iso -boot d -m 512
or
qemu-system-x86_64 -hda xp.img -no-acpi -cdrom /iso/xp.iso -boot d -m 512

I've also tried to get Standard PC HAL by pressing F7, 
but it makes no difference.

With -no-kvm, qemu-system-x86_64 does not crash the guest, but Win XP seems
to be "Installing Devices" for the rest of its life. The session is alive,
but no progress anymore.
The problem is nearly the same as described here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.kvm.devel/7470
                                                                            

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Amit Shah]

On Friday 09 November 2007 22:49:18 Werner Opriel wrote:
> Version:
> kvm-50 and kvm-51
>
> Problem:
> I am not able to install a Win XP SP2 guest.
> The Guest always crashes while installing Windows XP devices at T-37
> minutes with a blue-screen and IRQL_NOT_LES_OR_EQUAL.

This is most likely hidden somewhere in the upgrade to qemu CVS just over a 
month back. Try the userspace tools from kvm-44 and kernel modules from 
kvm-51 and let us know if that works (in my limited testing here, it did).

Amit.

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Izik Eidus]

Werner Opriel wrote:
> Version:
> kvm-50 and kvm-51
>
> Problem:
> I am not able to install a Win XP SP2 guest.
> The Guest always crashes while installing Windows XP devices at T-37 minutes
> with a blue-screen and IRQL_NOT_LES_OR_EQUAL.
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo:
> processor       : 0
> vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family      : 15
> model           : 107
> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350
> stepping        : 1
> cpu MHz         : 1000.000
> cache size      : 512 KB
> physical id     : 0
> siblings        : 2
> core id         : 0
> cpu cores       : 2
> fpu             : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level     : 1
> wp              : yes
> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
> cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp 
> lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 
> misalignsse
> bogomips        : 2005.82
> TLB size        : 1024 4K pages
> clflush size    : 64
> cache_alignment : 64
> address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
>
> processor       : 1
> vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family      : 15
> model           : 107
> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350
> stepping        : 1
> cpu MHz         : 1000.000
> cache size      : 512 KB
> physical id     : 0
> siblings        : 2
> core id         : 1
> cpu cores       : 2
> fpu             : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level     : 1
> wp              : yes
> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
> cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp 
> lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 
> misalignsse
> bogomips        : 2005.82
> TLB size        : 1024 4K pages
> clflush size    : 64
> cache_alignment : 64
> address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
>
> uname -r -m -o -s:
> Linux 2.6.22.9 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Guest:
> Windows XP SP2 32bit 
>
> Installation with:
> qemu-system-x86_64 -hda xp.img -cdrom /iso/xp.iso -boot d -m 512
> or
> qemu-system-x86_64 -hda xp.img -no-acpi -cdrom /iso/xp.iso -boot d -m 512
>
> I've also tried to get Standard PC HAL by pressing F7, 
> but it makes no difference.
>
> With -no-kvm, qemu-system-x86_64 does not crash the guest, but Win XP seems
> to be "Installing Devices" for the rest of its life. The session is alive,
> but no progress anymore.
> The problem is nearly the same as described here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.kvm.devel/7470
i hope i am not asking too much, but can you please try to completely 
install and run the installtion with -no-kvm?
(another thing i want you to check is what the effect of -no-kvm-irqchip 
when runing with kvm enabled (it might fix some things)

thanks.



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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[John Clemens]

I'm having the same issues as Werner, and using the kvm userspace from
kvm-44 and the kernel modules from kvm-51 does not help.  Same issue at
the same place in the install.  AMD turion X2 1.6Ghz, gutsy
2.6.22-14-generic host kernel.

It always fails, with either the IRQL_... error, or I've also seen
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (received this morning while trying kvm-51
userspace and kernel).  I've also seen INVALID_PFN occasionally, but I
haven't seen this with kvm-51 yet.

Using -no-kvm-irqchip is much worse.. the boot freezes very early in the
boot process with either a stop kernel message or the fading in windows
logo screen freezes half way in.  commandline used:

sudo ./qemu-system-x86_64 -m 256 -boot c
-cdrom /imgs/EN_WINDOWS_XP_PRO_WITH_SP2.ISO -hda /imgs/winxp.qcow
-vnc :1 -net user -net nic,model=ne2k_pci,mac=00:11:22:33:44:55
-no-kvm-irqchip

I will try using -no-kvm now.

john.c

On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 23:51 +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> On Friday 09 November 2007 22:49:18 Werner Opriel wrote:
> > Version:
> > kvm-50 and kvm-51
> >
> > Problem:
> > I am not able to install a Win XP SP2 guest.
> > The Guest always crashes while installing Windows XP devices at T-37
> > minutes with a blue-screen and IRQL_NOT_LES_OR_EQUAL.
> 
> This is most likely hidden somewhere in the upgrade to qemu CVS just over a 
> month back. Try the userspace tools from kvm-44 and kernel modules from 
> kvm-51 and let us know if that works (in my limited testing here, it did).
> 
> Amit.
> 
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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[John Clemens]

For what it's worth, -no-kvm completed the install successfully. 

And I am able to boot the resulting installed system with KVM-51
enabled. Only been running for a few minutes though. 

john.c

On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 15:01 -0500, John Clemens wrote:
> I'm having the same issues as Werner, and using the kvm userspace from
> kvm-44 and the kernel modules from kvm-51 does not help.  Same issue at
> the same place in the install.  AMD turion X2 1.6Ghz, gutsy
> 2.6.22-14-generic host kernel.
> 
> It always fails, with either the IRQL_... error, or I've also seen
> PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (received this morning while trying kvm-51
> userspace and kernel).  I've also seen INVALID_PFN occasionally, but I
> haven't seen this with kvm-51 yet.
> 
> Using -no-kvm-irqchip is much worse.. the boot freezes very early in the
> boot process with either a stop kernel message or the fading in windows
> logo screen freezes half way in.  commandline used:
> 
> sudo ./qemu-system-x86_64 -m 256 -boot c
> -cdrom /imgs/EN_WINDOWS_XP_PRO_WITH_SP2.ISO -hda /imgs/winxp.qcow
> -vnc :1 -net user -net nic,model=ne2k_pci,mac=00:11:22:33:44:55
> -no-kvm-irqchip
> 
> I will try using -no-kvm now.
> 
> john.c
> 
> On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 23:51 +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> > On Friday 09 November 2007 22:49:18 Werner Opriel wrote:
> > > Version:
> > > kvm-50 and kvm-51
> > >
> > > Problem:
> > > I am not able to install a Win XP SP2 guest.
> > > The Guest always crashes while installing Windows XP devices at T-37
> > > minutes with a blue-screen and IRQL_NOT_LES_OR_EQUAL.
> > 
> > This is most likely hidden somewhere in the upgrade to qemu CVS just over a 
> > month back. Try the userspace tools from kvm-44 and kernel modules from 
> > kvm-51 and let us know if that works (in my limited testing here, it did).
> > 
> > Amit.
> > 
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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Werner Opriel]

Am Freitag, 9. November 2007 20:42 schrieb Izik Eidus:

> i hope i am not asking too much, but can you please try to completely
> install and run the installtion with -no-kvm?
> (another thing i want you to check is what the effect of -no-kvm-irqchip
> when runing with kvm enabled (it might fix some things)
>
> thanks.

I've completely reinstalled Windows XP SP2 with (kvm-51):
qemu-system-x86_64 -no-kvm -hda xp.img -cdrom /iso/xp.iso -boot d -m 512
and pressing F7 to use Standard PC HAL.

The Installation went through without any errors and I was able to boot the  
installed Windows with the  -no-kvm switch.

Then I rebooted the windows-guest with kvm and bridged networking:

qemu-system-x86_64 -usb -usbdevice tablet -monitor stdio -m 512 \
-net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=/etc/qemu-ifup

and immediatly got a BSOD with IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and windows  rebooted 
automatically.

Next i tried:
qemu-system-x86_64 -no-acpi -usb -usbdevice tablet -monitor stdio -m 512 \
-net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=/etc/qemu-ifup

I could login and install a programm like winscp and while starting it i got 
another BSOD with  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.

Next i will try with -no-kvm-irqchip .


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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Izik Eidus]

Werner Opriel wrote:
> Am Freitag, 9. November 2007 20:42 schrieb Izik Eidus:
>
>   
>> i hope i am not asking too much, but can you please try to completely
>> install and run the installtion with -no-kvm?
>> (another thing i want you to check is what the effect of -no-kvm-irqchip
>> when runing with kvm enabled (it might fix some things)
>>
>> thanks.
>>     
>
> I've completely reinstalled Windows XP SP2 with (kvm-51):
> qemu-system-x86_64 -no-kvm -hda xp.img -cdrom /iso/xp.iso -boot d -m 512
> and pressing F7 to use Standard PC HAL.
>
> The Installation went through without any errors and I was able to boot the  
> installed Windows with the  -no-kvm switch.
>
> Then I rebooted the windows-guest with kvm and bridged networking:
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 -usb -usbdevice tablet -monitor stdio -m 512 \
> -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=/etc/qemu-ifup
>
> and immediatly got a BSOD with IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and windows  rebooted 
> automatically.
>
> Next i tried:
> qemu-system-x86_64 -no-acpi -usb -usbdevice tablet -monitor stdio -m 512 \
> -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=/etc/qemu-ifup
>
> I could login and install a programm like winscp and while starting it i got 
> another BSOD with  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.
>
> Next i will try with -no-kvm-irqchip .
>
>   
ok, please try out -no-kvm-irqchip, and if this isnt helping
you might checkout kvm-36 and report what happen there
(in this days we are doing some serioes work to improved greatly the amd 
support)

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Werner Opriel]

Am Samstag, 10. November 2007 15:05 schrieb Izik Eidus:

> ok, please try out -no-kvm-irqchip, and if this isnt helping
> you might checkout kvm-36 and report what happen there
> (in this days we are doing some serioes work to improved greatly the amd
> support)

With kvm-51 and pressing F7 to use Standard PC HAL:

qemu-system-x86_64 -hda xp2.img -no-kvm-irqchip -cdrom /iso/xpua.iso -boot 
d -m 512

The Installation died very early with a BSOD and 
"Process1_Initialization failed".

Ok, now i'll try kvm-36.

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Werner Opriel]

Am Samstag, 10. November 2007 15:05 schrieb Izik Eidus:
>
> ok, please try out -no-kvm-irqchip, and if this isnt helping
> you might checkout kvm-36 and report what happen there
> (in this days we are doing some serioes work to improved greatly the amd
> support)

With kvm-36 and pressing F7 to use Standard PC HAL:

qemu-system-x86_64 -hda xp.img  -cdrom /iso/xp.iso -boot 
d -m 512

the windows guest always fails to reboot, it then hangs without any errors or 
messages, but doing a manually reboot works well and finally the installation 
ended successfully.

Starting the guest in bridged mode with:

qemu-system-x86_64 xp.img -usb -usbdevice tablet -monitor stdio -m 512 \
-net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=/etc/qemu-ifup

seems to work fast and stable so far. 
I tried to install a program, create users and start some tasks ... and i 
haven't seen any errors yet, except for the reboot issue.

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Izik Eidus]

Werner Opriel wrote:
> Am Samstag, 10. November 2007 15:05 schrieb Izik Eidus:
>   
>> ok, please try out -no-kvm-irqchip, and if this isnt helping
>> you might checkout kvm-36 and report what happen there
>> (in this days we are doing some serioes work to improved greatly the amd
>> support)
>>     
>
> With kvm-36 and pressing F7 to use Standard PC HAL:
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 -hda xp.img  -cdrom /iso/xp.iso -boot 
> d -m 512
>
> the windows guest always fails to reboot, it then hangs without any errors or 
> messages, but doing a manually reboot works well and finally the installation 
> ended successfully.
>
> Starting the guest in bridged mode with:
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 xp.img -usb -usbdevice tablet -monitor stdio -m 512 \
> -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=/etc/qemu-ifup
>
> seems to work fast and stable so far. 
> I tried to install a program, create users and start some tasks ... and i 
> haven't seen any errors yet, except for the reboot issue.
>   
ok, good to hear that at least once we had that work,
as i said we hope to solve the amd problems that we have in newer 
versions of kvm.

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Avi Kivity]

Amit Shah wrote:
> On Friday 09 November 2007 22:49:18 Werner Opriel wrote:
>   
>> Version:
>> kvm-50 and kvm-51
>>
>> Problem:
>> I am not able to install a Win XP SP2 guest.
>> The Guest always crashes while installing Windows XP devices at T-37
>> minutes with a blue-screen and IRQL_NOT_LES_OR_EQUAL.
>>     
>
> This is most likely hidden somewhere in the upgrade to qemu CVS just over a 
> month back. Try the userspace tools from kvm-44 and kernel modules from 
> kvm-51 and let us know if that works (in my limited testing here, it did).
>   
I think it works on Intel, so it is probably a problem in irq injection 
on AMD.


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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Amit Shah]

On Sunday 11 November 2007 15:50:30 Avi Kivity wrote:
> Amit Shah wrote:
> > On Friday 09 November 2007 22:49:18 Werner Opriel wrote:
> >> Version:
> >> kvm-50 and kvm-51
> >>
> >> Problem:
> >> I am not able to install a Win XP SP2 guest.
> >> The Guest always crashes while installing Windows XP devices at T-37
> >> minutes with a blue-screen and IRQL_NOT_LES_OR_EQUAL.
> >
> > This is most likely hidden somewhere in the upgrade to qemu CVS just over
> > a month back. Try the userspace tools from kvm-44 and kernel modules from
> > kvm-51 and let us know if that works (in my limited testing here, it
> > did).
>
> I think it works on Intel, so it is probably a problem in irq injection
> on AMD.

I had a similar problem (installation stopping at 37 minutes), while the 
installer hadn't hung. So I tried kvm-43 and 44 userspace and it did work. 
kvm-45 didn't (post-drop).

I got an IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL a couple of times, but after that it worked. 
So it could be a combination of a couple of things.

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Alexey Eremenko]

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This is strange, because I have XP on AMD-64 working fine on KVM-51.

-Alexey

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Amit Shah]

On Monday 12 November 2007 12:22:39 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> This is strange, because I have XP on AMD-64 working fine on KVM-51.

A pre-installed VM works just fine. The problem is with the installation. Does 
the installation succeed for you as well with kvm-51?

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Avi Kivity]

Amit Shah wrote:
> On Monday 12 November 2007 12:22:39 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
>   
>> This is strange, because I have XP on AMD-64 working fine on KVM-51.
>>     
>
> A pre-installed VM works just fine. The problem is with the installation. Does 
> the installation succeed for you as well with kvm-51?
>   

An installed vm will also crash occasionally, I believe.

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Re: Cannot install Win XP on AMD X2 with kvm-51

[Amit Shah]

On Monday 12 November 2007 13:42:07 Avi Kivity wrote:
> Amit Shah wrote:
> > On Monday 12 November 2007 12:22:39 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> >> This is strange, because I have XP on AMD-64 working fine on KVM-51.
> >
> > A pre-installed VM works just fine. The problem is with the installation.
> > Does the installation succeed for you as well with kvm-51?
>
> An installed vm will also crash occasionally, I believe.

On an Opteron 1216 and 64 bit host, I've not faced problems with kvm-git 
(updated almost daily) in a long time on pre-installed WinXP guests.

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