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From: Andi Kleen <andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexander Graf <alex-r27SGEef+tmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] fix VMX TSC synchronicity
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:34:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080116133454.GA14481@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <478DC453.1000404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:46:11AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> [fixing gmane emails, urgfhsz]
> 
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> >Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >
> >  
> >>Thanks; that's reassuring to know that it will work (at least on Intel).
> >>    
> >
> >Actually there are modern Intel systems which still have instable TSCs;
> >e.g. IBM Summit multi node systems and some others. So you should
> >still handle that case.
> >  
> 
> I really don't see any way we could.  If the guest assumes tscs are 
> synchronous, and they really are not, there's nothing we can do.

Linux checks a couple of things: e.g. if there are no deep C states
and if there are no clustered nodes in the APIC etc.

It might be reasonable to check the clock source of the kernel
and if it's not TSC force one of these in the emulated firmware
environment

> You might taskset guests into a single node on such systems, which is a
> good idea anyway.

Ah pushing the problem to the user. An easy, but typically wrong, solution.

-Andi

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-16 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-11 20:49 [RFC] fix VMX TSC synchronicity Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-13 12:19 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]   ` <478A01D1.7000402-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-14 16:06     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-14 20:46       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-15 14:59         ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-15 14:33       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <478CC448.1030901-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 14:50           ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]             ` <478CC819.3040106-r27SGEef+tmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 15:09               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <478CCCA9.2080300-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 16:42                   ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                     ` <478CE277.9010109-r27SGEef+tmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 17:46                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <478CF186.5030304-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 18:29                           ` Amit Shah
2008-01-16  5:51                   ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                     ` <p73ir1ul3ls.fsf-KvMlXPVkKihbpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16  8:46                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <478DC453.1000404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 13:34                           ` Andi Kleen [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <478E08E5.2030507@qumranet.com>
     [not found]                               ` <478E08E5.2030507-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 13:54                                 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                                   ` <20080116135415.GA14664-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 13:56                                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-17 18:43                                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-17 18:56                                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-20 14:59                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-04 15:40                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-06 13:55                                         ` Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-12  3:11 Will Trives
2008-01-12 12:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-12 13:48   ` Will Trives
2008-01-12 20:51     ` Avi Kivity

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