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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] export notifier #1
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:04:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080123120446.GF15848@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080123105246.GG26420@sgi.com>

On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 04:52:47AM -0600, Robin Holt wrote:
> But 100 callouts holding spinlocks will not work for our implementation
> and even if the callouts are made with spinlocks released, we would very
> strongly prefer a single callout which messages the range to the other
> side.

But you take the physical address and turn into mm+va with your rmap...

> > Also, our rmap key for finding the spte is keyed on (mm, va).  I imagine
> > most RDMA cards are similar.
> 
> For our RDMA rmap, it is based upon physical address.

so why do you turn it into mm+va?

> >> There is only the need to walk twice for pages that are marked Exported.
> >> And the double walk is only necessary if the exporter does not have its
> >> own rmap. The cross partition thing that we are doing has such an rmap and
> >> its a matter of walking the exporters rmap to clear out the external
> >> references and then we walk the local rmaps. All once.
> >>
> >
> > The problem is that external mmus need a reverse mapping structure to
> > locate their ptes.  We can't expand struct page so we need to base it on mm
> > + va.
> 
> Our rmap takes a physical address and turns it into mm+va.

Why don't you stick to mm+va and use get_user_pages and let the VM do
the swapins etc...?

> > Can they wait on that bit?
> 
> PageLocked(page) should work, right?  We already have a backoff
> mechanism so we expect to be able to adapt it to include a
> PageLocked(page) check.

It's not PageLocked but wait_on_page___not___exported() called on the
master node. Plus nothing in the VM of the master node calls
SetPageExported... good luck to make it work (KVM swapping OTOH works
like a charm already w/o the backwards secondary-TLB-flushing order).

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-23 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-13 16:24 [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v2 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] ` <20080113162418.GE8736-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-13 21:11   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-14 20:02   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801141154240.8300-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15  4:28       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 12:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]         ` <20080115124449.GK30812-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 20:18           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-16  1:06             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 17:42   ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]     ` <20080116124256.44033d48-Fuq27k0DHcCSkoNiqTzCLQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 17:48       ` Izik Eidus
     [not found]         ` <478E4356.7030303-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-17 16:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 18:21             ` Izik Eidus
     [not found]               ` <478F9C9C.7070500-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-17 19:32                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                   ` <20080117193252.GC24131-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-21 12:52                     ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                       ` <20080121125204.GJ6970-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22  2:21                         ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-22 14:12                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                           ` <4795F9D2.1050503-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 14:43                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                               ` <20080122144332.GE7331-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 20:08                                 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v4 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                   ` <20080122200858.GB15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 20:34                                     ` [PATCH] export notifier #1 Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221232040.28197-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:31                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                           ` <20080122223139.GD15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:53                                             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221433080.2271-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 10:27                                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <479716AD.5070708-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 10:52                                                     ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:04                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
     [not found]                                                         ` <20080123120446.GF15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 12:34                                                           ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:48                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231147370.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 19:58                                                               ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123105246.GG26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 19:47                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231145210.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  5:56                                                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                               ` <4798289B.1000007-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 12:26                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20080124122623.GK7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 12:34                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 11:41                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                   ` <20080123114136.GE15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 12:32                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123123230.GH26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 17:33                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                           ` <20080123173325.GG7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 20:27                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 15:42                                                               ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20080124154239.GP7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 20:07                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801241205510.22285-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-25  6:35                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 20:18                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231149150.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 14:34                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                           ` <20080124143454.GN7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 14:41                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 15:15                                                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                               ` <4798AB96.4000408-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 15:18                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 20:01                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 23:36                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23  0:40                                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221640010.3329-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23  1:21                                               ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:51                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                           ` <4797384B.7080200-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 13:19                                             ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                               ` <20080123131939.GJ26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:12                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                   ` <47974B54.30407-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:18                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123141814.GE3058-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:35                                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                           ` <479750CA.4070101-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 15:48                                                             ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:17                                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <47974C78.7050509-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  4:03                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23 15:41                                           ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                             ` <20080123154130.GC7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 17:47                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                 ` <47977DCA.3040904-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  6:01                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24  6:45                                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-23 20:40                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24  2:00                                     ` Enhance mmu notifiers to accomplish a lockless implementation (incomplete) Robin Holt
     [not found]                                       ` <20080124020007.GL26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  4:05                                         ` Robin Holt
2008-01-22 19:28                       ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-22 20:31                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:31                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                           ` <20080122203125.GC15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:10                             ` Hugh Dickins

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