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From: Andi Kleen <andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org>
To: Balaji Rao <balajirrao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	markus.armbruster-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org,
	Andi Kleen <andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org>,
	avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Performance monitoring units and KVM
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:12:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080131031232.GB27115@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801310044.11055.balajirrao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:44:10AM +0530, Balaji Rao wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 January 2008 11:56:25 pm Andi Kleen wrote:
> > There is no really an architectural PMU if you consider
> > boxes beyond relatively new Intel CPUs (which got one)
> >
> But since kvm runs only on such CPUs, it should not really be a problem in 
> migrating between various Intel models at least.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think there are P4 based (Family 15) CPUs which have
VT but not ArchPerfMon. AFAIK ArchPerfMon is only in Family 6 CPUs.
Family 15 has a completely different PerfMon interface.

> > But on the other hand in my experience most PMU users use
> > relatively simple few counters (e.g. 90+% likely the local
> > variant of CPU_CYCLES_NONHALTED) so it would be in theory
> > possible to translate those by traps from a different CPU's
> > format in the monitor into the local MSR.
> >
> > The only trouble is that is no architectural way to tell
> > the guest "i support only counter X Y Z" and also no
> > nice way to reject a particular counter except for just
> > not ticking.
> Can't this be exported through CPUID ?

Sure it could, but that would be a new interface. If you were
free to define a new interface you could also just go completely
hypercall based.

-Andi


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-31  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-30 17:06 Performance monitoring units and KVM Markus Armbruster
     [not found] ` <87wsprxmyb.fsf-A7mx1g9ivIOttUaS3K59qNi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 17:41   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <47A0B6DF.40208-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 18:05       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-30 18:23       ` Balaji Rao
     [not found]         ` <200801302353.19872.balajirrao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 18:14           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <47A0BE8F.4090508-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 18:26               ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                 ` <p73ir1b5fvy.fsf-KvMlXPVkKihbpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 19:14                   ` Balaji Rao
     [not found]                     ` <200801310044.11055.balajirrao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  3:12                       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20080131031232.GB27115-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  3:44                           ` Performance monitoring units and KVM II Andi Kleen
2008-01-31  7:12                           ` Performance monitoring units and KVM Balaji Rao
2008-01-30 18:55               ` Balaji Rao
2008-01-30 19:55       ` Markus Armbruster
     [not found]         ` <87fxwfw0jn.fsf-A7mx1g9ivIOttUaS3K59qNi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  7:03           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <47A172D4.6040505-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 15:42               ` Markus Armbruster
     [not found]                 ` <87odb2gfx5.fsf-A7mx1g9ivIOttUaS3K59qNi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 16:37                   ` Avi Kivity

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