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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jack Steiner <steiner-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra
	<a.p.zijlstra-/NLkJaSkS4VmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	daniel.blueman-xqY44rlHlBpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	Robin Holt <holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 04:33:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080203033318.GE7185@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080203031457.GA16127-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>

On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 09:14:57PM -0600, Jack Steiner wrote:
> Also, most (but not all) applications that use the GRU do not usually do
> anything that requires frequent flushing (fortunately). The GRU is intended
> for HPC-like applications. These don't usually do frequent map/unmap
> operations or anything else that requires a lot of flushes.
> 
> I expect that KVM is a lot different.

I don't think so. invalidate_page/pages/range_start,end is a slow and
unfrequent path for KVM (or alternatively the ranges are very small in
which case _range_start/end won't payoff compared to _pages). Whenever
invalidate_page[s] become a fast path, we're generally I/O
bound. get_user_pages is always the fast path instead. I thought it
was much more important that get_user_pages scale as well as it does
now and that the KVM page fault isn't serialized with a mutex, than
whatever invalidate side optimization. get_user_pages may run
frequently from all vcpus even if there are no invalidates and no
memory pressure and I don't mean only during startup.

> I have most of the GRU code working with the latest mmuops patch. I still
> have a list of loose ends that I'll get to next week. The most important is
> the exact handling of the range invalidates. The code that I currently have
> works (mostly) but has a few endcases that will cause problems. Once I
> finish, I'll be glad to send you snippets of the code (or all of it) if you
> would like to take a look.

Sure.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-03  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-31  4:57 [patch 0/3] [RFC] MMU Notifiers V4 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 1/3] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <20080131045812.553249048-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  1:56     ` Jack Steiner
     [not found]       ` <20080201015611.GA15893-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:24         ` Robin Holt
     [not found]           ` <20080201022444.GA26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:37             ` Jack Steiner
     [not found]               ` <20080201023659.GA30057-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:39                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:31     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]       ` <20080201023113.GB26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:39         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801311838070.26594-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:47             ` Robin Holt
     [not found]               ` <20080201024742.GD26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  3:01                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:01             ` Jack Steiner
     [not found]               ` <20080201030104.GA29417-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  3:03                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:52     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]       ` <20080201035249.GE26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  3:58         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801311957250.17649-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  4:15             ` Robin Holt
2008-02-03  1:33             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]               ` <20080203013323.GA7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-04 19:13                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 2/3] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <20080131045812.785269387-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 12:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <20080131123118.GK7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 20:07         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:01         ` mmu_notifier: close hole in fork Christoph Lameter
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801311355260.27804-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 22:16             ` mmu_notifier: reduce size of mm_struct if !CONFIG_MMU_NOTIFIER Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:21             ` mmu_notifier: Move mmu_notifier_release up to get rid of the invalidat_all() callback Christoph Lameter
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801311421110.22290-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  0:13                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                   ` <20080201001355.GU7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  1:52                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:57                     ` mmu_notifier: invalidate_range for move_page_tables Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801311752200.24427-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:38                         ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                           ` <20080201023815.GC26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:41                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  0:01             ` mmu_notifier: close hole in fork Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]               ` <20080201000158.GT7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  1:48                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:24     ` [patch 2/3] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Robin Holt
     [not found]       ` <20080201042408.GG26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  4:43         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801312042500.20675-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01 10:32             ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 10:37               ` Robin Holt
     [not found]               ` <20080201103221.GH26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01 19:13                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 3/3] mmu_notifier: invalidate_page callbacks Christoph Lameter
     [not found] ` <20080131045750.855008281-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 17:18   ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]     ` <20080131171806.GN7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 20:18       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:09         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801311508080.23624-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 23:41             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]               ` <20080131234101.GS7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  1:44                 ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801311738570.24297-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01 12:09                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                       ` <20080201120955.GX7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01 19:23                         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802011118060.18163-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-03  2:17                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                               ` <20080203021704.GC7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-03  3:14                                 ` Jack Steiner
     [not found]                                   ` <20080203031457.GA16127-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-03  3:33                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-02-04 19:09                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05  5:25                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                     ` <20080205052525.GD7441-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05  6:11                                       ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802042206200.6739-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05 18:08                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                             ` <20080205180802.GE7441-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05 18:17                                               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802051013440.11705-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05 20:55                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                     ` <20080205205519.GF7441-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05 22:06                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802051400200.14665-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05 22:12                                                           ` Robin Holt
2008-02-05 22:26                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                             ` <20080205222657.GG7441-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05 23:10                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802051504450.16261-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05 23:47                                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20080205234742.GI7441-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-06  0:04                                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:28         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]           ` <20080131232842.GQ7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  1:37             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801311733140.24297-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:23                 ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                   ` <20080201022321.GZ26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-01  2:26                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 12:00                 ` Andrea Arcangeli

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