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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	lguest <lguest@ozlabs.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:14:05 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803210914.05476.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E20A35.2000600@qumranet.com>

On Thursday 20 March 2008 17:54:45 Avi Kivity wrote:
> Rusty Russell wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >    Just finished my prototype of inter-guest virtio, using networking as
> > an example.  Each guest mmaps the other's address space and uses a FIFO
> > for notifications.
>
> Isn't that a security hole (hole? chasm)?  If the two guests can access
> each other's memory, they might as well be just one guest, and
> communicate internally.

Sorry, sloppy language on my part.  Each launcher process maps the other 
guest's memory as well: ie. copying occurs in the host.

> My feeling is that the host needs to copy the data, using dma if
> available.  Another option is to have one guest map the other's memory
> for read and write, while the other guest is unprivileged.  This allows
> one privileged guest to provide services for other, unprivileged guests,
> like domain 0 or driver domains in Xen.

One having privilege is possible, even trivial with the current patch (it's 
actually doing a completely generic inter-virtio-ring shuffle).  I chose the 
symmetrical approach for this demo for no particularly good reason.

Cheers,
Rusty.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20  5:59 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Rusty Russell
     [not found] ` <200803201659.14344.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:05   ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Rusty Russell
     [not found]     ` <200803201705.44422.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:22       ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] lguest: Encapsulate Guest memory ready for dealing with other Guests Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:36         ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] lguest: separate out virtqueue info from device info Rusty Russell
     [not found]           ` <200803201736.01883.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:40             ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] lguest: ignore bad virtqueues Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:45               ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] lguest: Inter-guest networking Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:04       ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <47E26EE1.5030706-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:32           ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-20 15:07           ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:24             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 22:12           ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 23:46             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-23  9:11               ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20  8:16     ` [Lguest] " Tim Post
     [not found]       ` <1206000960.6873.124.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:07         ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-21  0:29         ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:54   ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <47E20A35.2000600-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 13:55       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <47E26CC1.8080900-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:27           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <47E27461.4090404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:39               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:05                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:36                     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                       ` <47E28482.9010501-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 15:52                         ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 22:14     ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2008-03-20 14:11   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-23 12:05     ` Rusty Russell

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