From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, allen.m.kay@intel.com,
Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
benami@il.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] direct mmio for passthrough - kernel part
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:18:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080401181856.GD31765@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080401181031.GA19189@duo.random>
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 08:10:31PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:18:07PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > and very few application domains are allowed to access them. THe KVM/QEMU
> > policy will not allow this for example. Basically on the X server, HAL and
> > dmidecode have access in current policy. It would be undesirable to have to
> > all KVM guests full access to /dev/mem, so a more fine grained access method
> > would have benefits here.
>
> But pci-passthrough can give a root on the host even to the ring0
> guest, just like /dev/mem without VT-d, so there's no muchx difference
> with using /dev/mem as far as security is concerned. Only on the CPUs
> including VT-d it's possible to retain a mostly equivalent security
> level despite pci-passthrough.
Clearly it is a loosing battle without VT-d. That doesn't mean we should
design it to loose in general. So we should design to that when we do have
VT-D it will have the maximum security possible. VT-d will only become more
widespread over time.
Dan.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-01 18:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-01 11:52 [RFC] direct mmio for passthrough benami
2008-04-01 11:52 ` [PATCH 1/1] direct mmio for passthrough - kernel part benami
2008-04-01 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 14:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 15:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 17:05 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 18:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 18:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 17:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 17:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-04-01 18:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 18:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2008-04-01 18:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 18:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 19:22 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 22:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 22:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 22:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-02 4:00 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 19:28 ` Ben-Ami Yassour1
2008-04-01 19:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 20:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-02 4:32 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 7:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 10:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 10:59 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 11:16 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 11:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 11:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-03 8:51 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
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