From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: gcosta@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
aliguori@us.ibm.com
Subject: kvm guest loops_per_jiffy miscalibration under host load
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:40:21 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080702164021.GA31751@dmt.cnet> (raw)
Hello,
I have been discussing with Glauber and Gerd the problem where KVM
guests miscalibrate loops_per_jiffy if there's sufficient load on the
host.
calibrate_delay_direct() failed to get a good estimate for
loops_per_jiffy.
Probably due to long platform interrupts. Consider using "lpj=" boot
option.
Calibrating delay loop... <3>107.00 BogoMIPS (lpj=214016)
While this particular host calculates lpj=1597041.
This means that udelay() can delay for less than what asked for, with
fatal results such as:
..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Try using the
'noapic' kernel parameter
This bug is easily triggered with a CPU hungry task on nice -20
running only during guest calibration (so that the timer check code on
io_apic_{32,64}.c fails to wait long enough for PIT interrupts to fire).
The problem is that the calibration routines assume a stable relation
between timer interrupt frequency (PIT at this boot stage) and
TSC/execution frequency.
The emulated timer frequency is based on the host system time and
therefore virtually resistant against heavy load, while the execution
of these routines on the guest is suspectible to scheduling of the QEMU
process.
To fix this in a transparent way (without direct "lpj=" boot parameter
assignment or a paravirt equivalent), it would be necessary to base the
emulated timer frequency on guest execution time instead of host system
time. But this can introduce timekeeping issues (recent Linux guests
seem to handle lost/late interrupts fine as long as the clocksource is
reliable) and just sounds scary.
Possible solutions:
- Require the admin to preset "lpj=". Nasty, not user friendly.
- Pass the proper lpj value via a paravirt interface. Won't cover
fullvirt guests.
- Have the management app guarantee a minimum amount of CPU required
for proper calibration during guest initialization.
Comments, ideas?
next reply other threads:[~2008-07-02 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-02 16:40 Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2008-07-03 13:17 ` kvm guest loops_per_jiffy miscalibration under host load Glauber Costa
2008-07-04 22:51 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-07-07 1:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-07 18:27 ` Glauber Costa
2008-07-07 18:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-07-07 19:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-07 19:32 ` Glauber Costa
2008-07-07 21:35 ` Glauber Costa
2008-07-11 21:18 ` David S. Ahern
2008-07-12 14:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-07-12 19:28 ` David S. Ahern
2008-07-07 18:17 ` Daniel P. Berrange
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-22 3:25 Marcelo Tosatti
2008-07-22 8:22 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-07-22 12:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-07-22 15:54 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-07-22 22:00 ` Dor Laor
2008-07-22 19:56 ` David S. Ahern
2008-07-23 2:57 ` David S. Ahern
2008-07-29 14:58 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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