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From: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
Cc: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] x86/iommu: use dma_ops_list in get_dma_ops
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:13:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080927001321.GI9118@il.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080926123243.GE27928@amd.com>

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 02:32:43PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:

> Ok, the allocation only matters for dma_alloc_coherent. Fujita
> introduced a generic software-based dma_alloc_coherent recently
> which you can use for that. I think implementing PVDMA into an own
> dma_ops backend and multiplex it using my patches introduces less
> overhead than an additional layer over the current dma_ops
> implementation.

I'm not sure what you have in mind, but I agree with Amit that
conceptually pvdma should be called after the guest's "native" dma_ops
have done their thing. This is not just for nommu, consider a guest
that is using an (emulated) hardware IOMMU, or that wants to use
swiotlb. We can't replicate their functionality in the pv_dma_ops
layer, we have to let them run first and then pass deal with whatever
we get back.

> Another two questions to your approach: What happens if a
> dma_alloc_coherent allocation crosses page boundarys and the gpa's
> are not contiguous in host memory? How will dma masks be handled?

That's a very good question. The host will need to be aware of a
device's DMA capabilities in order to return I/O addresses (which
could be hpa's if you don't have an IOMMU) that satisfy them. That's
quite a pain.

Cheers,
Muli
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-27  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-22 18:21 [PATCH 0/9][RFC] stackable dma_ops for x86 Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 1/9] x86/iommu: add necessary types for stackable dma_ops Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 2/9] x86/iommu: add stackable dma_ops registration interface Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 3/9] x86/iommu: change PCI-NOMMU to use dma_ops register interface Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 4/9] x86/iommu: change SWIOTLB " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 5/9] x86/iommu: change GART " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 6/9] x86/iommu: change Calgary " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-23 14:37   ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-30 11:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-30 11:58     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-30 13:30     ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-30 15:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-30 18:33         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 7/9] x86/iommu: change AMD IOMMU " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 8/9] x86/iommu: change Intel " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 9/9] x86/iommu: use dma_ops_list in get_dma_ops Joerg Roedel
2008-09-26  7:56   ` Amit Shah
2008-09-26  8:59     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-26 10:49       ` Amit Shah
2008-09-26 12:32         ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-27  0:13           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda [this message]
2008-09-28 19:13             ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29  9:30               ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-29  9:36                 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 13:16                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:33                     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-30 19:44                       ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-10-01  7:19                         ` Joerg Roedel
2008-10-03  8:38                           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-26 11:00     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-28 14:21   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-28 18:44     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29  9:25       ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-29  9:29         ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:36 ` [PATCH 0/9][RFC] stackable dma_ops for x86 Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-22 18:39   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-23  2:41     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-23  2:50       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-28 14:21 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-28 18:49   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 13:16     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:26       ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 13:42         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:51           ` Joerg Roedel

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