From: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
Cc: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] x86/iommu: use dma_ops_list in get_dma_ops
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:13:21 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080927001321.GI9118@il.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080926123243.GE27928@amd.com>
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 02:32:43PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> Ok, the allocation only matters for dma_alloc_coherent. Fujita
> introduced a generic software-based dma_alloc_coherent recently
> which you can use for that. I think implementing PVDMA into an own
> dma_ops backend and multiplex it using my patches introduces less
> overhead than an additional layer over the current dma_ops
> implementation.
I'm not sure what you have in mind, but I agree with Amit that
conceptually pvdma should be called after the guest's "native" dma_ops
have done their thing. This is not just for nommu, consider a guest
that is using an (emulated) hardware IOMMU, or that wants to use
swiotlb. We can't replicate their functionality in the pv_dma_ops
layer, we have to let them run first and then pass deal with whatever
we get back.
> Another two questions to your approach: What happens if a
> dma_alloc_coherent allocation crosses page boundarys and the gpa's
> are not contiguous in host memory? How will dma masks be handled?
That's a very good question. The host will need to be aware of a
device's DMA capabilities in order to return I/O addresses (which
could be hpa's if you don't have an IOMMU) that satisfy them. That's
quite a pain.
Cheers,
Muli
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-27 0:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-22 18:21 [PATCH 0/9][RFC] stackable dma_ops for x86 Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 1/9] x86/iommu: add necessary types for stackable dma_ops Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 2/9] x86/iommu: add stackable dma_ops registration interface Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 3/9] x86/iommu: change PCI-NOMMU to use dma_ops register interface Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 4/9] x86/iommu: change SWIOTLB " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 5/9] x86/iommu: change GART " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 6/9] x86/iommu: change Calgary " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-23 14:37 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-30 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-30 11:58 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-30 13:30 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-30 15:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-30 18:33 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 7/9] x86/iommu: change AMD IOMMU " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 8/9] x86/iommu: change Intel " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 9/9] x86/iommu: use dma_ops_list in get_dma_ops Joerg Roedel
2008-09-26 7:56 ` Amit Shah
2008-09-26 8:59 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-26 10:49 ` Amit Shah
2008-09-26 12:32 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-27 0:13 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda [this message]
2008-09-28 19:13 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 9:30 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-29 9:36 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 13:16 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:33 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-30 19:44 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-10-01 7:19 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-10-03 8:38 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-26 11:00 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-28 14:21 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-28 18:44 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 9:25 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-29 9:29 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:36 ` [PATCH 0/9][RFC] stackable dma_ops for x86 Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-22 18:39 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-23 2:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-23 2:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-28 14:21 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-28 18:49 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 13:16 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:26 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 13:42 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:51 ` Joerg Roedel
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