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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] x86/iommu: use dma_ops_list in get_dma_ops
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:36:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080929093652.GQ27426@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080929093044.GB6931@il.ibm.com>

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:30:44PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 09:13:33PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> 
> > I think we should try to build a paravirtualized IOMMU for KVM
> > guests.  It should work this way: We reserve a configurable amount
> > of contiguous guest physical memory and map it dma contiguous using
> > some kind of hardware IOMMU. This is possible with all hardare
> > IOMMUs we have in the field by now, also Calgary and GART. The guest
> > does dma_coherent allocations from this memory directly and is done.
> > For map_single and map_sg 
> > the guest can do bounce buffering. We avoid nearly all pvdma hypercalls
> > with this approach, keep guest swapping working and solve also the
> > problems with device dma_masks and guest memory that is not contigous on
> > the host side.
> 
> I'm not sure I follow, but if I understand correctly with this
> approach the guest could only DMA into buffers that fall within the
> range you allocated for DMA and mapped. Isn't that a pretty nasty
> limitation?  The guest would need to bounce-bufer every frame that
> happened to not fall inside that range, with the resulting loss of
> performance.

The bounce buffering is needed for map_single/map_sg allocations. For
dma_alloc_coherent we can directly allocate from that range. The
performance loss of the bounce buffering may be lower than the
hypercalls we need as the alternative (we need hypercalls for map, unmap
and sync).

Joerg


  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-29  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-22 18:21 [PATCH 0/9][RFC] stackable dma_ops for x86 Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 1/9] x86/iommu: add necessary types for stackable dma_ops Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 2/9] x86/iommu: add stackable dma_ops registration interface Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 3/9] x86/iommu: change PCI-NOMMU to use dma_ops register interface Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 4/9] x86/iommu: change SWIOTLB " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 5/9] x86/iommu: change GART " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 6/9] x86/iommu: change Calgary " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-23 14:37   ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-30 11:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-30 11:58     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-30 13:30     ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-30 15:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-30 18:33         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 7/9] x86/iommu: change AMD IOMMU " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 8/9] x86/iommu: change Intel " Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:21 ` [PATCH 9/9] x86/iommu: use dma_ops_list in get_dma_ops Joerg Roedel
2008-09-26  7:56   ` Amit Shah
2008-09-26  8:59     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-26 10:49       ` Amit Shah
2008-09-26 12:32         ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-27  0:13           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-28 19:13             ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29  9:30               ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-29  9:36                 ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2008-09-29 13:16                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:33                     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-30 19:44                       ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-10-01  7:19                         ` Joerg Roedel
2008-10-03  8:38                           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-26 11:00     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-28 14:21   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-28 18:44     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29  9:25       ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-09-29  9:29         ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-22 18:36 ` [PATCH 0/9][RFC] stackable dma_ops for x86 Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-22 18:39   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-23  2:41     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-23  2:50       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-28 14:21 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-28 18:49   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 13:16     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:26       ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-29 13:42         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-09-29 13:51           ` Joerg Roedel

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