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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] KVM: MMU: prepopulate the shadow on invlpg
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:33:11 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081031223311.GA31882@dmt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <490B6359.7000307@redhat.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:58:17PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>> +		sw->pte_gpa = (sp->gfn << PAGE_SHIFT);
>>>> +		sw->pte_gpa += (sptep - sp->spt) * sizeof(pt_element_t);
>>>> +
>>>> +		if (is_shadow_present_pte(*sptep)) {
>>>>  			rmap_remove(vcpu->kvm, sptep);
>>>> +			sw->pte_gpa = -1;
>>>>         
>>> Why?  The pte could have heen replaced (for example, a write access 
>>> to a  cow page).
>>>     
>>
>> Well look-aheads on address space teardown will be useless. OTOH the
>> guest pte read cost is minimal compared to an exit.
>>   
>
> Don't understand.  We will incur an exit if a pte is replaced and  
> invlpg'ed due to a copy-on-write (do guests actually execute invlpg  
> after a cow? I don't think they have to).
>
> What is the downside?  A pagetable teardown that does not involve  
> zeroing the page?  I don't think we'll see invlpg on that path, more  
> likely a complete tlb flush.

Err, I'm on crack. The assumption is that the common case is pte
invalidation + invlpg: kunmap_atomic, page aging clearing the 
accessed bit, page reclaim.

Linux COW will invalidate + invlpg (do_wp_page) first:

                entry = mk_pte(new_page, vma->vm_page_prot);
                entry = maybe_mkwrite(pte_mkdirty(entry), vma);
                /*
                 * Clear the pte entry and flush it first, before
                 * updating the
                 * pte with the new entry. This will avoid a race
                 * condition
                 * seen in the presence of one thread doing SMC and
                 * another
                 * thread doing COW.
                 */
                ptep_clear_flush_notify(vma, address, page_table);

Not sure about Windows.

>> Whatever you prefer. Learning guest behaviour as suggested earlier 
>> would be optimal, but simple is good.
>>   
>
> We're way past simple.  We can reclaim some of the complexity by always  
> doing unsync, and dropping emulation and kvm_mmu_set_pte(), but need to  
> make sure we don't regress on performance.  I think Windows does a pde  
> write on context switch, which will add a vmexit, but Windows  
> applications are not too context switch intensive AFAIK.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-31 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-25 22:31 [patch 0/3] oos shadow optimizations Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-25 22:31 ` [patch 1/3] KVM: MMU: collapse remote TLB flushes on root sync Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-26 11:17   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 23:26     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-30 10:04       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:30         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-25 22:31 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: MMU: skip global pgtables on sync due to cr3 switch Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-26 11:27   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:36     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-31 19:43       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:50         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-31 19:59           ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-25 22:31 ` [patch 3/3] KVM: MMU: prepopulate the shadow on invlpg Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-26 11:48   ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:47     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-10-31 19:58       ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 22:33         ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2008-11-02  8:39           ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-02 16:08             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-11-02 16:14               ` Avi Kivity

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