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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: muli@il.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, weidong.han@intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, avi@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] add frontend implementation for the IOMMU API
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:27:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081201142727.GL29705@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081201231852P.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 11:18:39PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:02:09 +0200
> Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:00:26PM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > The majority of the names (include/linux/iommu.h, iommu.c,
> > > > > > iommu_ops, etc) looks too generic? We already have lots of
> > > > > > similar things (e.g. arch/{x86,ia64}/asm/iommu.h, several
> > > > > > archs' iommu.c, etc). Such names are expected to be used by
> > > > > > all the IOMMUs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The API is already useful for more than KVM. I also plan to
> > > > > extend it to support more types of IOMMUs than VT-d and AMD
> > > > > IOMMU in the future. But these changes are more intrusive than
> > > > > this patchset and need more discussion. I prefer to do small
> > > > > steps into this direction.
> > > > 
> > > > Can you be more specific? What IOMMU could use this? For example,
> > > > how GART can use this? I think that people expect the name 'struct
> > > > iommu_ops' to be an abstract for all the IOMMUs (or the majority
> > > > at least). If this works like that, the name is a good choice, I
> > > > think.
> > > 
> > > GART can't use exactly this. But with some extensions we can make it
> > > useful for GART and GART-like IOMMUs too. For example we can emulate
> > > domains in GART by partitioning the GART aperture space.
> > 
> > That would only work with a pvdma API, since GART doesn't support
> > multiple address spaces, and you don't get the isolation properties of
> > a real IOMMU, so... why would you want to do that?
> 
> If this works for only IOMMUs that support kinda domain concept, then
> I think that a name like iommu_domain_ops is more appropriate.

Hmm, is there any hardware IOMMU with which we can't emulate domains by
partitioning the IO address space? This concept works for GART and
Calgary.

Joerg


  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-01 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-27 15:40 [PATCH 0/9] Factor VT-d KVM functions into a generic API Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 1/9] KVM: rename vtd.c to iommu.c Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 16:32   ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-27 17:05     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-11-30 10:12       ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 2/9] introcude linux/iommu.h for an iommu api Joerg Roedel
2008-11-28  2:50   ` Han, Weidong
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 3/9] add frontend implementation for the IOMMU API Joerg Roedel
2008-11-28  2:50   ` Han, Weidong
2008-12-01 18:16     ` 'Joerg Roedel'
2008-11-28  9:40   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-11-28 11:31     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01  8:38       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-12-01 12:00         ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01 13:02           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-12-01 14:07             ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01 14:18             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-12-01 14:27               ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2008-12-01 14:33                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-01 15:46                   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01 15:58                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-12-01 16:59                     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01 17:27                     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 4/9] select IOMMU_API when DMAR and/or AMD_IOMMU is selected Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 5/9] VT-d: add domain init and destroy functions for IOMMU API Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 6/9] VT-d: add device attach and detach " Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 7/9] VT-d: add domain map and iova_to_phys " Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 8/9] VT-d: register functions for the " Joerg Roedel
2008-11-28  2:50   ` Han, Weidong
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 9/9] KVM: change KVM iommu.c to use " Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:43 ` [osrc-patches] [PATCH 0/9] Factor VT-d KVM functions into a generic API Joerg Roedel

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