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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: copyless virtio net thoughts?
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:51:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200902191551.39471.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902192206.17557.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

On Thursday 19 February 2009, Rusty Russell wrote:

> Not quite: I think PCI passthrough IMHO is the *wrong* way to do it:
> it makes migrate complicated (if not impossible), and requires
> emulation or the same NIC on the destination host.  
> 
> This would be the *host* seeing the virtual functions as multiple
> NICs, then the ability to attach a given NIC directly to a process.

I guess what you mean then is what Intel calls VMDq, not SR-IOV.
Eddie has some slides about this at
http://docs.huihoo.com/kvm/kvmforum2008/kdf2008_7.pdf .

The latest network cards support both operation modes, and it
appears to me that there is a place for both. VMDq gives you
the best performance without limiting flexibility, while SR-IOV
performance in theory can be even better, but sacrificing a
lot of flexibility and potentially local (guest-to-gest)
performance.

AFAICT, any card that supports SR-IOV should also allow a VMDq
like model, as you describe.

	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-19 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-05  2:07 copyless virtio net thoughts? Chris Wright
2009-02-05 12:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-02-05 14:25   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-06  5:40   ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-06  8:46     ` Avi Kivity
2009-02-06  9:19       ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-06 14:55         ` Avi Kivity
2009-02-07 11:56           ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-02-08  3:01             ` David Miller
2009-02-18 11:38 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-18 12:17   ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-18 16:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-02-19 10:56     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-18 23:31   ` Simon Horman
2009-02-19  1:03     ` Dong, Eddie
2009-02-19 11:36     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 14:51       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2009-02-19 23:09       ` Simon Horman
2009-02-19 11:37     ` Chris Wright

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