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From: Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: qemu/hw/device-assignment: questions about msix_table_page
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:17:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200905061617.28288.sheng@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090506073118.GA3791@redhat.com>

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 15:31:18 Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:35:27AM +0800, Sheng Yang wrote:
> > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 20:46:04 Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 07:49:10AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:34:50PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 07:19:45AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 12:51:36PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin 
wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:30:17PM +0800, Sheng Yang wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > If guest can write to the real device MSI-X table
> > > > > > > > > > > > directly, it would cause chaos on interrupt delivery,
> > > > > > > > > > > > for what guest see is totally different with what's
> > > > > > > > > > > > host see...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Obviously.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What's the reason that this page is unmapped from the qemu
> > > > > > > memory space? Specifically what do these lines do:
> > > > > > >             int offset = r_dev->msix_table_addr -
> > > > > > > real_region->base_addr; ret = munmap(region->u.r_virtbase +
> > > > > > > offset, TARGET_PAGE_SIZE);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe this allows accesses to this page (the MSI-X table),
> > > > > > which is part of the guest address space (through kvm memory
> > > > > > slots), to be trapped by qemu.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since there is no actual page in this guest address, KVM treats
> > > > > > accesses as MMIO and forwards them to QEMU.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought about this too.
> > > > > But why is this necessary for assigned MSI-X but not for emulated
> > > > > devices such as e.g. e1000? All e1000 does seems to be
> > > > > cpu_register_physical_memory ...
> > > >
> > > > Because there is no registered (kvm) memory slot for the range which
> > > > e1000 registers its MMIO? Not sure about the address of the MSI-X
> > > > table page, but you could achieve the same effect by splitting the
> > > > slot which it lives in two, with a 1 page hole between them.
> > >
> > > You could also move the emulated MSI-X table, sticking it on top of the
> > > existing BAR. Since PCI config includes the pointer to the table,
> > > a driver that reads this pointer will continue to work.
> >
> > One BAR can contain more than a MSI-X table... The PCI spec only said the
> > other information should be page aligned and can't in the same page of
> > MSI-X table(except PBA). I think this method make thing more complicate,
> > we don't want to and can't trap other informations in the same BAR...
>
> The trick I was suggesting was increasing the BAR size.
> Let's assume we have real BAR of size 1Mbyte and MSI-X table at offset 0.
> We report to guest BAR of size 2Mbyte and MSI-X table offset 1MByte.
> Trap all accesses 1MByte to 2MByte and copy them to MSI-X table.

Oh, yeah, understand. And I use current method just because it's simply... 

> > > Of course, there's no guarantee that guest drivers don't just hard-code
> > > this offset.
> >
> > I think this mostly won't happen.
> >
> > > > BTW this is why you can't map the MSI-X table page directly, you want
> > > > accesses to be trapped.
> > >
> > > BTW current design won't work if the base page size is > 4K, will it?
> > > The hole covers a page, so you'll get faults outside the MSI-X table.
> >
> > Yes. One entry for MSI-X is 16bytes, one page can contain 256 entries.
> > Well, I haven't see a device get more than 100 entries, but for this
> > limitation, maybe we should limit MSI-X max entries to 256 (rather than
> > 512 entries now)temporarily...
>
> Drivers might not have a clean fallback path if the number of entries
> becomes smaller.

The biggest one I saw now is one oplin card, it got 2 MSI-X vector per cpu 
plus one(i.e. 17 vectors for a 8-core machine)... And if driver don't have 
clean fallback, it's driver's problem...
>
> Another problem is if TARGET_PAGE_SIZE is > 4K.
> PCI spec only asks devices to reserve 4K of space for the table,
> so you will accidentally trapping accesses not related to MSI-X.

Yes, this should be fixed...

-- 
regards
Yang, Sheng

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-06  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090427104117.GB29082@redhat.com>
2009-04-27 13:16 ` Sheng Yang
2009-04-27 13:51   ` qemu/hw/device-assignment: questions about msix_table_page Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-27 14:03     ` Sheng Yang
2009-04-27 14:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-04-27 14:30         ` Sheng Yang
2009-04-27 14:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-05  9:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-05 10:19             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-05 10:34               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-05 10:49                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-05 11:45                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-05 11:51                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-05 12:46                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-06  2:35                     ` Sheng Yang
2009-05-06  7:31                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-06  8:17                         ` Sheng Yang [this message]
2009-04-28  9:31       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-27 13:13 Michael S. Tsirkin

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