From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, avi@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [KVM PATCH v5 3/4] KVM: Fix races in irqfd using new eventfd_kref_get interface
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:07:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090628200751.GA14993@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A47CA82.4040108@novell.com>
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 03:54:42PM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:28:19PM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> >
> >> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 03:57:30PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 03:56:12PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 08:53:22AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:28:27AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> eventfd currently emits a POLLHUP wakeup on f_ops->release() to generate a
> >>>>>>>> "release" callback. This lets eventfd clients know if the eventfd is about
> >>>>>>>> to go away and is very useful particularly for in-kernel clients. However,
> >>>>>>>> until recently it is not possible to use this feature of eventfd in a
> >>>>>>>> race-free way. This patch utilizes a new eventfd interface to rectify
> >>>>>>>> the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Note that one final race is known to exist: the slow-work thread may race
> >>>>>>>> with module removal. We are currently working with slow-work upstream
> >>>>>>>> to fix this issue as well. Since the code prior to this patch also
> >>>>>>>> races with module_put(), we are not making anything worse, but rather
> >>>>>>>> shifting the cause of the race. Once the slow-work code is patched we
> >>>>>>>> will be fixing the last remaining issue.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> By the way, why are we using slow-work here? Wouldn't a regular
> >>>>>>> workqueue do just as well, with less code, and avoid the race?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I believe it will cause a problem if you do a "flush_work()" from inside
> >>>>>> a work-item. I could be wrong, of course, but it looks like a recipe to
> >>>>>> deadlock.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Greg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Sure, but the idea is to only flush on kvm close, never from work item.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> To clarify, you don't flush slow works from a work-item,
> >>>> so you shouldn't need to flush workqueue either.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> I guess my question is - why is slow work different? It's still
> >>> a thread pool underneath ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Its not interdependent. Flush-work blocks the thread..if the thread
> >> happens to be the work-queue thread you may deadlock preventing it from
> >> processing further jobs like the inject. In reality it shouldnt be
> >> possible, but its just a bad idea to assume its ok.
> >> Slow work, on the
> >> other hand, will just make a new thread.
> >>
> >> -Greg
> >>
> >>
> >
> > But if you create your own workqueue, and all you do there is destroy
> > irqfds, things are ok I think. Right?
> >
>
> Yep, creating your own queue works too. I picked slow-work as an
> alternate to generating a dedicated resource, but I agree either method
> would work fine. Do you have a preference?
>
> Regards,
> -Greg
It's not something I lose sleep about, but I think workqueue might be
less code: for example, you can just flush it instead of using your own
counter. And possibly things can be further simplified by making the
workqueue single-threaded and always doing deassign from there.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-28 20:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-25 13:28 [KVM PATCH v5 0/4] irqfd fixes and enhancements Gregory Haskins
2009-06-25 13:28 ` [KVM PATCH v5 1/4] kvm: prepare irqfd for having interrupts disabled during eventfd->release Gregory Haskins
2009-06-25 13:28 ` [KVM PATCH v5 2/4] eventfd - revised interface and cleanups (4th rev) Gregory Haskins
2009-06-25 13:28 ` [KVM PATCH v5 3/4] KVM: Fix races in irqfd using new eventfd_kref_get interface Gregory Haskins
2009-06-26 14:05 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-28 11:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-28 12:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-28 13:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-28 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 11:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-28 12:53 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-28 12:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-28 12:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-28 13:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-28 16:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-28 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-28 19:54 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-28 20:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-06-28 20:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-28 16:25 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-25 13:28 ` [KVM PATCH v5 4/4] KVM: add irqfd DEASSIGN feature Gregory Haskins
2009-06-28 10:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-28 12:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-25 13:59 ` [KVM PATCH v5 0/4] irqfd fixes and enhancements Gregory Haskins
2009-06-25 16:44 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-06-28 11:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 12:59 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-28 13:40 ` Avi Kivity
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