From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Matthew Tippett <tippettm@gmail.com>,
Dustin Kirkland <dustin.kirkland@gmail.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>, RW <kvm@tauceti.net>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sync guest calls made async on host - SQLite performance
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:41:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091014134122.GA14235@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AD5B00D.102@redhat.com>
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 08:03:41PM +0900, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >Can't remember anything like that. The "bug" was the complete lack of
> >cache flush infrastructure for virtio, and the lack of advertising a
> >volative write cache on ide.
> >
>
> By "complete flush infrastructure", you mean host-side and guest-side
> support for a new barrier command, yes?
The cache flush command, not barrier command. The new virtio code
implements barrier the same way we do for IDE and SCSI - all barrier
semantics are implemented by generic code in the block layer by draining
the queues, the only thing we send over the wire are cache flush
commands in strategic places.
> But can't this be also implemented using QUEUE_ORDERED_DRAIN, and on the
> host side disabling the backing device write cache? I'm talking about
> cache=none, primarily.
Yes, it could. But as I found out in a long discussion with Stephen
it's not actually nessecary. All filesystems do the right thing for
a device not claiming to support barriers if it doesn't include write
caches, that is implement ordering internally. So there is no urge to
set QUEUE_ORDERED_DRAIN for the case without write cache.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-14 13:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-25 7:00 sync guest calls made async on host - SQLite performance RW
2009-09-27 11:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-27 12:07 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-09-29 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 19:32 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-09-29 20:46 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-29 20:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-07 14:15 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-10-07 16:53 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-10-07 18:59 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-07 19:31 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-10-07 20:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 21:01 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-10-09 6:05 ` Dustin Kirkland
[not found] ` <4ACE0196.9010904@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <d9c105ea0910082312n7218e1abhc69a2be660838e89@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <f28b49ce0910090425p385636c3he6dfb7595927d7e4@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-09 15:18 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-09 19:06 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-10-11 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-13 22:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-14 11:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-14 12:03 ` [PATCH] virtio-blk: fallback to draining the queue if barrier ops are not supported Avi Kivity
2009-10-14 14:46 ` Javier Guerra
2009-10-14 16:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-14 15:38 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-10-14 15:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-14 13:41 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-10-14 16:56 ` sync guest calls made async on host - SQLite performance Avi Kivity
2009-10-14 17:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-14 22:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 23:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-15 12:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-15 12:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-19 5:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-13 23:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 2:09 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-10-14 4:12 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-14 11:32 ` Matthew Tippett
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-09-25 2:11 Ian Woodstock
2009-09-25 3:13 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-09-23 15:58 Matthew Tippett
2009-09-24 11:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 12:31 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-09-24 13:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 19:49 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-09-25 7:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25 11:33 ` Matthew Tippett
2009-09-25 15:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-29 18:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 18:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 18:54 ` Anthony Liguori
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