From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
avi@redhat.com, markmc@redhat.com, ogerlitz@voltaire.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:44:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100127094427.GE3476@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201001271034.35904.arnd@arndb.de>
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:34:35AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 January 2010, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > I am not sure I agree with this sentiment. The main issue being that
> > macvtap doesn't exist on all kernels :). macvlan also requires hardware
> > support, packet socket can work with any network card in promisc mode.
>
> To be clear, macvlan does not require hardware support, it will happily
> put cards into promiscous mode if they don't support multiple mac addresses.
>
> > I agree to that. People don't even seem to agree whether it's a raw
> > socket or a packet socket :) We need a better name for this option: what
> > it really does is rely on an external device to loopback a packet to us,
> > so how about -net loopback or -net extbridge?
>
> I think -net socket,fd should just be (trivially) extended to work with raw
> sockets out of the box, with no support for opening it. Then you can have
> libvirt or some wrapper open a raw socket and a private namespace and just pass it
> down.
That'd work. Anthony?
> If you really want to let qemu open the socket itself, -net socket,raw=eth0
> is probably closer to what you want than a new -net xxx option.
>
> Arnd
So again if implemented this probably should be
-net socket,raw,loopback=eth0 or -net socket,raw,extbridge=eth0
or some such, just to make it abundantly clear that you must not bind it
to a regular ethernet device.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-27 9:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-26 20:40 [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-26 20:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 20:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 23:19 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 9:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 9:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 9:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-01-27 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 21:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 22:56 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-28 6:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 16:53 ` Jens Osterkamp
2010-01-28 11:22 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-29 20:52 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 16:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:54 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 18:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 18:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 8:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 14:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 15:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 16:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 17:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 18:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-29 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 20:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-01 15:47 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-27 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-26 23:15 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 0:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 6:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
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