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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
	avi@redhat.com, markmc@redhat.com, ogerlitz@voltaire.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:44:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100127094427.GE3476@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201001271034.35904.arnd@arndb.de>

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:34:35AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 January 2010, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > I am not sure I agree with this sentiment.  The main issue being that
> > macvtap doesn't exist on all kernels :). macvlan also requires hardware
> > support, packet socket can work with any network card in promisc mode.
> 
> To be clear, macvlan does not require hardware support, it will happily
> put cards into promiscous mode if they don't support multiple mac addresses.
> 
> > I agree to that. People don't even seem to agree whether it's a raw
> > socket or a packet socket :) We need a better name for this option: what
> > it really does is rely on an external device to loopback a packet to us,
> > so how about -net loopback or -net extbridge?
> 
> I think -net socket,fd should just be (trivially) extended to work with raw
> sockets out of the box, with no support for opening it. Then you can have
> libvirt or some wrapper open a raw socket and a private namespace and just pass it
> down.

That'd work. Anthony?

> If you really want to let qemu open the socket itself, -net socket,raw=eth0
> is probably closer to what you want than a new -net xxx option.
> 
> 	Arnd

So again if implemented this probably should be 
-net socket,raw,loopback=eth0 or -net socket,raw,extbridge=eth0
or some such, just to make it abundantly clear that you must not bind it
to a regular ethernet device.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-27  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-26 20:40 [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-26 20:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 20:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 23:19     ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27  9:24     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27  9:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27  9:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-01-27 14:03           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 21:39             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 22:56               ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-28  6:06                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 16:53                   ` Jens Osterkamp
2010-01-28 11:22                 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-29 20:52                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 14:07       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 16:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:36               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:54                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 18:02                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 18:03                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 19:54                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28  8:12                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 13:56                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 14:13                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:39                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:52                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 15:05                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 16:37                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 17:58                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 18:04                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 19:57                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-29 11:26                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 20:29                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-01 15:47                         ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-27 18:12                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-26 23:15   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27  0:06     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27  6:52       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 14:14         ` Anthony Liguori

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