public inbox for kvm@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Xin, Xiaohui" <xiaohui.xin@intel.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"jdike@c2.user-mode-linux.org" <jdike@c2.user-mode-linux.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Provide a zero-copy method on KVM virtio-net.
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:25:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002111425.01720.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97F6D3BD476C464182C1B7BABF0B0AF5C11F641A@shzsmsx502.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Thursday 11 February 2010, Xin, Xiaohui wrote:
> >This does a lot of things that I had planned for macvtap. It's
> >great to hear that you have made this much progress.
> >
> >However, I'd hope that we could combine this with the macvtap driver,
> >which would give us zero-copy transfer capability both with and
> >without vhost, as well as (tx at least) when using multiple guests
> >on a macvlan setup.
> 
> You mean the zero-copy can work with macvtap driver without vhost.
> May you give me some detailed info about your macvtap driver and the
> relationship between vhost and macvtap to make me have a clear picture then?

macvtap provides a user interface that is largely compatible with
the tun/tap driver, and can be used in place of that from qemu.
Vhost-net currently interfaces with tun/tap, but not yet with macvtap,
which is easy enough to add and already on my list.

The underlying code is macvlan, which is a driver that virtualizes
network adapters in software, giving you multiple net_device instances
for a real NIC, each of them with their own MAC address.

In order to do zero-copy transmit with macvtap, the idea is to
add a nonblocking version of the aio_write() function that works
a lot like your transmit function.

For receive, the hardware does not currently know which guest
is supposed to get any frame coming in from the outside. Adding
zero-copy receive requires interaction with the device driver
and hardware capabilities to separate traffic by inbound MAC
address into separate buffers per VM.

> >I'm assuming that the idea is to allow VMDq adapters to simply
> >show up as separate adapters and have the driver handle this
> >in a hardware specific way.
> 
> Does the VMDq driver do so now?

I don't think anyone has published a VMDq capable driver so far.
I was just assuming that you were working on one.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-11 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-10 11:48 [PATCH 0/3] Provide a zero-copy method on KVM virtio-net Xin Xiaohui
2010-02-10 11:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] A device for zero-copy based " Xin Xiaohui
2010-02-10 11:48   ` [PATCH 2/3] Provides multiple submits and asynchronous notifications Xin Xiaohui
2010-02-10 11:49     ` [PATCH 3/3] Let host NIC driver to DMA to guest user space Xin Xiaohui
2010-02-10 15:17   ` [PATCH 1/3] A device for zero-copy based on KVM virtio-net Eric Dumazet
2010-02-11  5:33     ` Xin, Xiaohui
2010-02-10 13:40 ` [PATCH 0/3] Provide a zero-copy method " Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-11  7:40   ` Xin, Xiaohui
2010-02-11 13:25     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2010-02-11  8:54 ` Xin, Xiaohui

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=201002111425.01720.arnd@arndb.de \
    --to=arnd@arndb.de \
    --cc=jdike@c2.user-mode-linux.org \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=xiaohui.xin@intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox