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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Nested SVM and migration
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:46:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100221074633.GM14767@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B80DF7C.6000109@redhat.com>

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 09:23:40AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/20/2010 10:18 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> >
> >>Actually, looking deeper, there doesn't even appear to be any way to
> >>export the nested CPU data at all, meaning basic features like
> >>suspending and restoring the VM are not possible.  Is there any plan to
> >>make it work in the near future?  I'm not complaining; if my
> >>understanding is correct, this actually makes my current task easier.
> >I think we should introduce a flag to indicate userspace if a vcpu is in
> >a state that could be migrated in a save way together with a way for
> >userspace to request that the vcpu enters a migratable state. In the
> >kernel we could do something like that:
> >
> >nested_svm_vmrun(...)
> >{
> >	/* ... */
> >	kvm_migration_disable(vcpu);
> >	/* ... */
> >}
> >
> >nested_svm_vmexit(...)
> >{
> >	/* ... */
> >	kvm_migration_enable(vcpu);
> >	/* ... */
> >}
> >
> >and somewhere in the vcpu_run loop:
> >
> >if (vcpu->arch.migration_win_req)
> >	nested_svm_vmexit(INTR);
> >
> >This might be helpful in other situations too. Thoughts?
> 
> This doesn't work if the guest disables INTR intercepts, or if the
> guest checks that an interrupt was actually received.  Of course no
> sane guest does this.
> 
Malicious guest may do this on purpose just to prevent migration.
Relying on vcpu state controllable by a guest for migration is not a
good idea.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-21  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-20 19:14 Nested SVM and migration Zachary Amsden
2010-02-20 20:18 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-20 23:26   ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21 12:10     ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:24       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:41         ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:54           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 13:09             ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 13:14               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <4B8137E7.4030001@redhat.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20100221144352.GC26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:54                     ` Zachary Amsden
     [not found]                     ` <4B814C41.7010105@redhat.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20100221155624.GD26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:56                         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:59                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 16:46               ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:07                 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 15:23               ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 20:21                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:42         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:44           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:00             ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:02               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:07                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:11                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:24                     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:39       ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21  7:23   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21  7:46     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-02-21  8:12       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:18     ` Joerg Roedel

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