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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Unify KVM kernel-space and user-space code into a single
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:15:55 +0100
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* drepper@gmail.com <drepper@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 09:13, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> > The suckage of kernel async IO is for similar reasons: there's an ugly 
> > package separation problem between the kernel and between glibc
> 
> Bollocks.  glibc would use (and is using) everything the kernel provides.

I didnt say it's glibc's fault - if then it's more of the kernel's fault as 
most of the complexity is on that side. I said it's due to the fundamental 
distance between the app that makes use of it, the library and the kernel, and 
the resulting difficulties in getting a combined solution out.

None of the parties really feels it to be their own thing.

	Ingo