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From: Sebastian Hetze <s.hetze@linux-ag.com>
To: Sebastian Hetze <s.hetze@linux-ag.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -4398046474878 ns)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:08:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100330080828.A92003030135@mail.linux-ag.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100329103113.GP3910@miggy.org>

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:31:13AM +0100, Athanasius wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:46:35PM +0200, Sebastian Hetze wrote:
> > this message appeared in the KVM guest kern.log last night:
> > 
> > Mar 27 22:35:30 guest kernel: [260041.559462] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -4398046474878 ns)
> > 
> > The guest is running a 2.6.31-20-generic-pae ubuntu kernel with
> > hrtimer-tune-hrtimer_interrupt-hang-logic.patch applied.
> > 
> > If I understand things correct, in kernel/time/clocksource.c
> > clocksource_watchdog() checks all the
> > /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource
> > every 0.5sec for an delta of more than 0.0625s. So the tsc must have
> > changed more than one hour within two subsequent calls of
> > clocksource_watchdog. No event in the host nor anything in the
> > guest gives reasonable cause for this step.
> > 
> > However, the number 4398046474878 is only 36226 ns away from
> > 4*1024*1024*1024*1024
> 
>   I didn't see any such messages but I've had a recent experience with
> the time on one KVM host leaping *forwards* approx. 5 and 2.5 hours in
> two separate incidents.  Eerily the exact jumps, as best I can tell from
> logs are of 17592 and 8796 seconds, give or take a second or two.  If
> you look at these as nanoseconds then that's 'exactly' 2^44 and 2^43
> nanoseconds.
>   What I've done that seems to have avoided this happening again is drop
> KVM_CLOCK kernel option from the kvm guests' kernel.

To my understanding, kvm-clock is the best and most reliable clocksource
available, so I do not think it is a good idea to disable it.

There is a lot of bit shift operation happening with the clocksources,
so there may be a real bug hidden somewhere in the code.
Somehow ntp adjustment is involved, can this cause such huge steps?
Im my case, I actually have NTP running in the guest. However, the
statistics show a pretty stable timing here.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-30  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-28 11:46 Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -4398046474878 ns) Sebastian Hetze
2010-03-29 10:31 ` Athanasius
2010-03-30  8:08   ` Sebastian Hetze [this message]
2010-03-30 16:12     ` Athanasius
2010-03-30 17:04     ` Beinicke, Thomas
2010-03-31 19:32       ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-31 13:09         ` Beinicke, Thomas

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