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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Takuya Yoshikawa
	<yoshikawa.takuya-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Takuya Yoshikawa
	<takuya.yoshikawa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org,
	fernando-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org,
	kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kvm-ppc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kvm-ia64-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Any comments? Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/12] KVM, x86, ppc, asm-generic: moving dirty bitmaps to user space
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 07:55:49 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100601105549.GA1975@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BFA2539.3030709-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 04:05:29PM +0900, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
> (2010/05/17 18:06), Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
> >
> >>User allocated bitmaps have the advantage of reducing pinned memory.
> >>However we have plenty more pinned memory allocated in memory slots, so
> >>by itself, user allocated bitmaps don't justify this change.
> 
> Sorry for pinging several times.
> 
> >
> >In that sense, what do you think about the question I sent last week?
> >
> >=== REPOST 1 ===
> > >>
> > >> mark_page_dirty is called with the mmu_lock spinlock held in set_spte.
> > >> Must find a way to move it outside of the spinlock section.
> 
> I am now trying to do something to solve this spinlock problem. But the
> spinlock section looks too wide to solve with simple workaround.
> 
> >Sorry but I have to say that mmu_lock spin_lock problem was completely
> >out of
> >my mind. Although I looked through the code, it seems not easy to move the
> >set_bit_user to outside of spinlock section without breaking the
> >semantics of
> >its protection.
> >
> >So this may take some time to solve.
> >
> >But personally, I want to do something for x86's "vmallc() every time"
> >problem
> >even though moving dirty bitmaps to user space cannot be achieved soon.
> >
> >In that sense, do you mind if we do double buffering without moving
> >dirty bitmaps to
> >user space?
> 
> So I would be happy if you give me any comments about this kind of other
> options.

What if you pin the bitmaps? 

The alternative to that is to move mark_page_dirty(gfn) before acquision 
of mmu_lock, in the page fault paths. The downside of that is a
potentially (large?) number of false positives in the dirty bitmap.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-01 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-04 12:56 [RFC][PATCH 0/12] KVM, x86, ppc, asm-generic: moving dirty bitmaps to user space Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 12:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/12 applied today] KVM: x86: avoid unnecessary bitmap allocation when memslot is clean Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/12] x86: introduce copy_in_user() for 32-bit Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/12] x86: introduce __set_bit() like function for bitmaps in user space Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/12 not tested yet] PPC: introduce copy_in_user() for 32-bit Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:05 ` [RFC][PATCH resend 8/12] asm-generic: bitops: introduce le bit offset macro Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 15:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-04 16:08     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]       ` <4BE04677.4060608-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-05  2:59         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]           ` <20100505115924.7bb92036.takuya.yoshikawa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-06 13:38             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]               ` <201005061538.54326.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-10 11:46                 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-10 12:01                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                   ` <4BE7F22E.9070504-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-10 12:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                       ` <201005101401.52182.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-10 12:09                         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found] ` <20100504215645.6448af8f.takuya.yoshikawa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-04 13:00   ` [RFC][PATCH 2/12] KVM: introduce slot level dirty state management Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:01   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/12] KVM: introduce wrapper functions to create and destroy dirty bitmaps Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:04   ` [RFC][PATCH 7/12 not tested yet] PPC: introduce __set_bit() like function for bitmaps in user space Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]     ` <20100504220418.083929bc.takuya.yoshikawa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-11 16:00       ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-12  9:25         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:06   ` [RFC][PATCH 9/12] KVM: introduce a wrapper function of set_bit_user_non_atomic() Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:07 ` [RFC][PATCH RFC 10/12] KVM: move dirty bitmaps to user space Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]   ` <20100504220702.f8ba6ccc.takuya.yoshikawa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-11  3:28     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-05-12  6:27       ` Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]         ` <4BEA4A62.20100-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-13 11:05           ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:08 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/12] KVM: introduce new API for getting/switching dirty bitmaps Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]   ` <20100504220821.d68bde57.takuya.yoshikawa-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-11  3:43     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-05-11  5:53       ` Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]         ` <4BE8F0F2.60706-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-11 14:07           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-05-12  6:03             ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-04 13:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/12 sample] qemu-kvm: use " Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-10 12:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/12] KVM, x86, ppc, asm-generic: moving dirty bitmaps to user space Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 12:26   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-11 10:11     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-05-13 11:47     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-17  9:06       ` Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]         ` <4BF1070B.4000507-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-24  7:05           ` Any comments? " Takuya Yoshikawa
     [not found]             ` <4BFA2539.3030709-gVGce1chcLdL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-01 10:55               ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20100601105549.GA1975-I4X2Mt4zSy4@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-01 12:05                   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-06-01 12:54                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-05-11 15:55 ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-12  9:19   ` Takuya Yoshikawa

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