From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
mingo@elte.hu, npiggin@suse.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
mtosatti@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] use unfair spinlock when running on hypervisor.
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:52:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100603085251.GA4166@basil.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100603042051.GA5953@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 09:50:51AM +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 12:00:27PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >
> > There are two separate problems: the more general problem is that
> > the hypervisor can put a vcpu to sleep while holding a lock, causing
> > other vcpus to spin until the end of their time slice. This can
> > only be addressed with hypervisor help.
>
> Fyi - I have a early patch ready to address this issue. Basically I am using
> host-kernel memory (mmap'ed into guest as io-memory via ivshmem driver) to hint
> host whenever guest is in spin-lock'ed section, which is read by host scheduler
> to defer preemption.
Looks like a ni.ce simple way to handle this for the kernel.
However I suspect user space will hit the same issue sooner
or later. I assume your way is not easily extensable to futexes?
> One pathological case where this may actually hurt is routines in guest like
> flush_tlb_others_ipi() which take a spinlock and then enter a while() loop
> waiting for other cpus to ack something. In this case, deferring preemption just
> because guest is in critical section actually hurts! Hopefully the upper bound
> for deferring preemtion and the fact that such routines may not be frequently
> hit should help alleviate such situations.
So do you defer during the whole spinlock region or just during the spin?
I assume the the first?
-Andi
--
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-03 8:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-01 9:35 [PATCH] use unfair spinlock when running on hypervisor Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 15:53 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 16:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 16:38 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 16:52 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 17:27 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-02 2:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 5:26 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-02 8:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-02 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-03 4:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 4:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-03 5:38 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 8:52 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2010-06-03 9:26 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 10:22 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 10:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 12:04 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 12:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 12:58 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 13:04 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 13:45 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 14:48 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 15:17 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-03 15:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 17:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 17:39 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-06-02 2:46 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 7:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-01 17:54 ` john cooper
2010-06-01 19:36 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-03 11:06 ` David Woodhouse
2010-06-03 15:15 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 21:39 ` Eric Dumazet
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