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From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] use unfair spinlock when running on hypervisor.
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:18:17 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100603144817.GA30321@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100603134500.GN6822@laptop>

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 11:45:00PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > Ok got it - although that approach is not advisable in some cases for ex: when
> > the lock holder vcpu and lock acquired vcpu are scheduled on the same pcpu by
> > the hypervisor (which was experimented with in [1] where they foud a huge hit in
> > perf).
> 
> Sure but if you had adaptive yielding, that solves that problem.

I guess so.

> > Oops you are right - sorry should have checked more closely earlier. Given that
> > we may not be able to always guarantee that locked critical sections will not be
> > preempted (ex: when a real-time task takes over), we will need a combination of 
> > both approaches (i.e request preemption defer on lock hold path + yield on lock 
> > acquire path if owner !scheduled). The advantage of former approach is that it
> > could reduce job turnaround times in most cases (as lock is available when we 
> > want or we don't have to wait too long for it).
> 
> Both I think would be good. It might be interesting to talk with the
> s390 guys and see if they can look at ticket locks and preempt defer
> techniques too (considering they already do the other half of the
> equation well).

Martin/Heiko,
	Do you want to comment on this?

- vatsa

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-03 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-01  9:35 [PATCH] use unfair spinlock when running on hypervisor Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 15:53 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 16:24   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 16:38     ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 16:52       ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 17:27         ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-02  2:51           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02  5:26             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-02  8:50             ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-02  9:00               ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-03  4:20                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03  4:51                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-03  5:38                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03  8:52                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-03  9:26                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 10:22                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 10:38                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 12:04                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 12:38                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 12:58                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 13:04                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-06-03 13:45                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 14:48                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2010-06-03 15:17                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-03 15:35                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 17:25                             ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 17:39         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-06-02  2:46           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02  7:39           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-06-01 17:54         ` john cooper
2010-06-01 19:36           ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-03 11:06             ` David Woodhouse
2010-06-03 15:15               ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-01 21:39         ` Eric Dumazet

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