From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, cam@cs.ualberta.ca,
quintela@redhat.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Save state error handling (kill off no_migrate)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:54:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101108165406.GE7962@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289228397.19902.18.camel@x201>
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 07:59:57AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 13:40 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:58:57PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > Our code paths for saving or migrating a VM are full of functions that
> > > return void, leaving no opportunity for a device to cancel a migration,
> > > either from error or incompatibility. The ivshmem driver attempted to
> > > solve this with a no_migrate flag on the save state entry. I think the
> > > more generic and flexible way to solve this is to allow driver save
> > > functions to fail. This series implements that and converts ivshmem
> > > to uses a set_params function to NAK migration much earlier in the
> > > processes. This touches a lot of files, but bulk of those changes are
> > > simply s/void/int/ and tacking a "return 0" to the end of functions.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Alex
> >
> > Well error handling is always tricky: it seems easier to
> > require save handlers to never fail.
>
> Sure it's easier, but does that make it robust?
More robust in the face of wwhat kind of failure?
> > So there's a bunch of code here but what exactly is the benefit?
> > Since save handlers have no idea what does the remote do,
> > what is the compatibility you mention?
>
> There are two users I currently have in mind. ivshmem currently makes
> use of the register_device_unmigratable() because it makes use of host
> specific resources and connections (aiui). This sets the no_migrate
> flag, which is not dynamic and a bit of a band-aide.
> The other is
> device assignment, which needs a way to NAK a migration since physical
> devices are never migratable.
Well since all these can't be migrated ever, a fixed property actually seems
a good match. Sure it's not dynamic but all the easier to debug.
> I imagine we could at some point have
> devices with state tied to other features that can't always be detached
> from the host, this tries to provide the infrastructure for that to
> happen.
>
> Alex
Let guest control whether you can migrate?
Sounds like something that is more likely to be abused
than used constructively.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-08 16:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-06 20:58 [PATCH 0/6] Save state error handling (kill off no_migrate) Alex Williamson
2010-10-06 20:59 ` [PATCH 1/6] savevm: Allow SaveStateHandler() to return error Alex Williamson
2010-10-06 20:59 ` [PATCH 2/6] savevm: Allow vmsd->pre_save " Alex Williamson
2010-10-06 20:59 ` [PATCH 3/6] pci: Allow pci_device_save() " Alex Williamson
2010-10-06 20:59 ` [PATCH 4/6] virtio: Allow virtio_save() errors Alex Williamson
2010-10-06 20:59 ` [PATCH 5/6] savevm: Allow set_params and save_live_state to error Alex Williamson
2010-10-06 20:59 ` [PATCH 6/6] savevm: Remove register_device_unmigratable() Alex Williamson
2010-10-07 16:55 ` [PATCH 0/6] Save state error handling (kill off no_migrate) Alex Williamson
2010-11-08 11:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 14:59 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-08 16:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-11-08 17:20 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-08 20:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 21:23 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-09 12:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-09 14:58 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-09 15:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-09 15:34 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-09 15:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-09 15:47 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-09 16:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-09 16:30 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-09 16:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-09 17:44 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-09 19:35 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-16 10:23 ` Juan Quintela
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20101108165406.GE7962@redhat.com \
--to=mst@redhat.com \
--cc=alex.williamson@redhat.com \
--cc=anthony@codemonkey.ws \
--cc=cam@cs.ualberta.ca \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
--cc=quintela@redhat.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox