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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Kevin O'Connor" <kevin@koconnor.net>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, seabios@seabios.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 00/16] boot order specification
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:27:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101201122740.GL2187@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101201025332.GA6877@morn.localdomain>

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 09:53:32PM -0500, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 04:01:00PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 08:34:03PM -0500, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 08:47:34PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > If you let go to the idea of exact matching of string built by qemu in
> > > > Seabios it will be easy to see that /pci@i0cf8/ethernet@4/ethernet-phy@0
> > > > provides everything that Seabios needs to know and even more. If
> > > > you ignore all the noise it just says "boot from pci device slot 4 fn
> > > > 0". Seabios may have native support for the card in the slot or it can
> > > > use option rom on the card. Qemu does not care.
> > > 
> > > I'm having a hard time letting go of string matching.  I understand
> > > all the info is there if SeaBIOS parses the string.  However, I think
> > > parsing out openbios device strings is overkill in an x86 bios that
> > > just wants to order the boot objects it knows about.
> > > 
> > > Is there an issue with qemu generating two strings for devices with
> > > roms?
> > > 
> > I just do not see how I can justify this addition to qemu maintainers
> > given that the parsing code below is very simple.
> 
> It doesn't look correct to me - it doesn't handle the case where the
> PCI device is on a bridge.
> 
This is because Seabios does not yet keep pci bus topology information.
Given this information it is very easy to add bridge support to my code.
dev_path_get_node() returns pointer to next node for purpose :)

> BTW, what's the plan for handling SCSI adapters?  Lets say a user has
> a scsi card with three drives (lun 1, lun 3, lun 5) that show up as 3
> bcvs (lun1, lun3, lun5 in that order) and the user wishes to boot from
> lun3.  I understand this use case may not be important for qemu, but
> I'd like to use the same code on coreboot.  Being able to boot from
> any drive is important - it doesn't have to autodetect, but it should
> be possible.
> 
We can't. Option rom does not give us back enough information to do so.
Form device path we know exactly what id:lun boot should be done from,
but pnp_data does not have information to map BCV back to id:lun. I do
not see how coreboot can provide better information to Seabios then
qemu here. BTW to create proper EDD entry for SCSI boot device BIOS also
needs too map BCV to id:lun. How it can be done? 

SCSI _is_ important for qemu. Not HBA  we have now, but something supported
by recent operation systems out of the box. When such HBA will be emulated
in qemu we will add native Seabios support for it.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-01 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-17 16:43 [PATCHv6 00/16] boot order specification Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 01/16] Introduce fw_name field to DeviceInfo structure Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 02/16] Introduce new BusInfo callback get_fw_dev_path Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 03/16] Keep track of ISA ports ISA device is using in qdev Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 04/16] Add get_fw_dev_path callback to ISA bus " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 05/16] Store IDE bus id in IDEBus structure for easy access Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 06/16] Add get_fw_dev_path callback to IDE bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 07/16] Add get_dev_path callback for system bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 08/16] Add get_fw_dev_path callback for pci bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 09/16] Record which USBDevice USBPort belongs too Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 10/16] Add get_dev_path callback for usb bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 11/16] Add get_dev_path callback to scsi bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:43 ` [PATCHv6 12/16] Add bootindex parameter to net/block/fd device Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:44 ` [PATCHv6 13/16] Change fw_cfg_add_file() to get full file path as a parameter Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:44 ` [PATCHv6 14/16] Add bootindex for option roms Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:44 ` [PATCHv6 15/16] Add notifier that will be called when machine is fully created Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 16:44 ` [PATCHv6 16/16] Pass boot device list to firmware Gleb Natapov
2010-11-23 15:31 ` [PATCHv6 00/16] boot order specification Gleb Natapov
2010-11-23 16:12   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-23 19:30     ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-27 20:56     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28  7:54       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28  9:38         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28  9:47           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28 12:39         ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-28 13:03           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28 13:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:19           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28 13:22             ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-28 17:02               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 17:23             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 18:54               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28 19:09                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 19:20                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28 13:25           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24  1:19   ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-24 10:03     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-27 15:41       ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-27 16:22         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-27 16:49           ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-27 17:06             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-27 17:47               ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-27 18:15                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-27 18:40                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-27 19:04                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-27 21:07                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-28  7:45                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28 17:15                           ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-28 18:47                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28 19:11                               ` [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2010-11-28 19:52                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-30  1:34                               ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-30 14:01                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-01  2:53                                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-12-01 12:27                                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-12-02  2:25                                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-12-02 12:30                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-02 15:07                                           ` [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2010-12-02 17:13                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-02 21:22                                           ` Sebastian Herbszt
2010-12-03  2:01                                           ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-12-03  5:55                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-29 10:50                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-11-30  1:55                               ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-30 14:59                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-28 19:00                           ` [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2010-11-28 19:16                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-29 10:19                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-11-29 12:07                       ` Gleb Natapov

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