From: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm-vmx: add module parameter to avoid trapping HLT instructions (v2)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:44:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101203034415.GZ10050@sequoia.sous-sol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF86235.7050409@codemonkey.ws>
* Anthony Liguori (anthony@codemonkey.ws) wrote:
> On 12/02/2010 08:42 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
> >OK, let's say a single PCPU == 12 Compute Units.
> >
> >If the guest is the first to migrate to a newly added unused host, and
> >we are using either non-trapping hlt or Marcelo's non-yielding trapping
> >hlt, then that guest is going to get more CPU than it expected unless
> >there is some throttling mechanism. Specifically, it will get 12CU
> >instead of 1-3CU.
> >
> >Do you agree with that?
>
> Yes.
>
> There's definitely a use-case to have a hard cap.
OK, good, just wanted to be clear. Because this started as a discussion
of hard caps, and it began to sound as if you were no longer advocating
for them.
> But I think another common use-case is really just performance
> isolation. If over the course of a day, you go from 12CU, to 6CU,
> to 4CU, that might not be that bad of a thing.
I guess it depends on your SLA. We don't have to do anything to give
varying CU based on host load. That's the one thing CFS will do for
us quite well ;)
> If the environment is designed correctly, of N nodes, N-1 will
> always be at capacity so it's really just a single node hat is under
> utilized.
Many clouds do a variation on Small, Medium, Large sizing. So depending
on the scheduler (best fit, rr...) even the notion of at capacity may
change from node to node and during the time of day.
thanks,
-chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-03 3:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-02 13:59 [PATCH] kvm-vmx: add module parameter to avoid trapping HLT instructions (v2) Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 14:39 ` lidong chen
2010-12-02 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 9:38 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 11:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 23:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 17:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 19:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 20:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 20:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 9:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 22:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 8:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-04 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 14:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-06 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 16:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 12:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-03 23:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 22:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 8:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-04 13:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 8:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 19:14 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 20:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 20:40 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 20:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 21:07 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 22:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 2:42 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 3:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 3:44 ` Chris Wright [this message]
2010-12-03 14:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 22:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 22:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 5:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 9:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 11:21 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 11:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 16:27 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-04 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 17:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:58 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 18:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 18:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-04 8:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 18:20 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 18:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 18:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-03 18:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-03 17:28 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:36 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:38 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:47 ` Anthony Liguori
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