From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm-vmx: add module parameter to avoid trapping HLT instructions (v2)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 14:40:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101203124015.GJ2924@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF806E7.1090404@codemonkey.ws>
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:51:51PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 12/02/2010 02:12 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >>>> opt = CPU_BASED_TPR_SHADOW |
> >>>> CPU_BASED_USE_MSR_BITMAPS |
> >>>> CPU_BASED_ACTIVATE_SECONDARY_CONTROLS;
> >>>>--
> >>>>1.7.0.4
> >>>Breaks async PF (see "checks on guest state"),
> >>Sorry, I don't follow what you mean here. Can you elaborate?
> >VCPU in HLT state only allows injection of certain events that
> >would be delivered on HLT. #PF is not one of them.
>
> But you can't inject an exception into a guest while the VMCS is
> active, can you? So the guest takes an exit while in the hlt
> instruction but that's no different than if the guest has been
> interrupted because of hlt exiting.
>
Async PF completion do not kick vcpu out of a guest mode. It wakes vcpu
only if it is waiting on waitqueue. It was done to not generate
unnecessary overhead.
> >You'd have to handle this situation on event injection, vmentry fails
> >otherwise. Or perhaps clear HLT state on vmexit and vmentry.
>
> So this works today because on a hlt exit, emulate_halt() will clear
> the the HLT state which then puts the the vcpu into a state where it
> can receive an exception injection?
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
> >>> timer reinjection
> >>>probably.
> >>Timer reinjection will continue to work as expected. If a guest is
> >>halting an external interrupt is delivered (by a timer), the guest
> >>will still exit as expected.
> >>
> >>I can think of anything that would be functionally correct and still
> >>depend on getting hlt exits because ultimately, a guest never
> >>actually has to do a hlt (and certainly there are guests that
> >>won't).
> >LAPIC pending timer events will be reinjected on entry path, if
> >accumulated. So they depend on any exit. If you disable HLT-exiting,
> >delay will increase. OK, maybe thats irrelevant.
> >
> >>> It should be possible to achieve determinism with
> >>>a scheduler policy?
> >>If the desire is the ultimate desire is to have the guests be
> >>scheduled in a non-work conserving fashion, I can't see a more
> >>direct approach that to simply not have the guests yield (which is
> >>ultimately what hlt trapping does).
> >>
> >>Anything the scheduler would do is after the fact and probably based
> >>on inference about why the yield.
> >Another issue is you ignore the hosts idea of the best way to sleep
> >(ACPI, or whatever).
> >
> >And handling inactive HLT state (which was never enabled) can be painful.
> >
>
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-02 13:59 [PATCH] kvm-vmx: add module parameter to avoid trapping HLT instructions (v2) Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 14:39 ` lidong chen
2010-12-02 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 9:38 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 11:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 23:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 17:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 19:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 20:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 20:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 9:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 22:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 8:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-04 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 14:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-06 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 16:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 12:40 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-12-03 23:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 22:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 8:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-04 13:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 8:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 19:14 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 20:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 20:40 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 20:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 21:07 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 22:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 2:42 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 3:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 3:44 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 14:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 22:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 22:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 5:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 9:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 11:21 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 11:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 16:27 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-04 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 17:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:58 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 18:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 18:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-04 8:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 18:20 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 18:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 18:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-03 18:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-03 17:28 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:36 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:38 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:47 ` Anthony Liguori
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