From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Avi Kiviti <avi@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] sched: add yield_to function
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:16:18 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101203134618.GG27994@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1291355656.7633.124.camel@marge.simson.net>
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 06:54:16AM +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > +void yield_to(struct task_struct *p)
> > +{
> > + unsigned long flags;
> > + struct sched_entity *se = &p->se;
> > + struct rq *rq;
> > + struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq;
> > + u64 remain = slice_remain(current);
>
> That "slice remaining" only shows the distance to last preempt, however
> brief. It shows nothing wrt tree position, the yielding task may well
> already be right of the task it wants to yield to, having been a buddy.
Good point.
> > cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
> > + se->vruntime -= remain;
> > + if (se->vruntime < cfs_rq->min_vruntime)
> > + se->vruntime = cfs_rq->min_vruntime;
>
> (This is usually done using max_vruntime())
>
> If the recipient was already left of the fair stick (min_vruntime),
> clipping advances it's vruntime, vaporizing entitlement from both donor
> and recipient.
>
> What if a task tries to yield to another not on the same cpu, and/or in
> the same task group?
In this case, target of yield_to is a vcpu belonging to the same VM and hence is
expected to be in same task group, but I agree its good to put a check.
> This would munge min_vruntime of other queues. I
> think you'd have to restrict this to same cpu, same group. If tasks can
> donate cross cfs_rq, (say) pinned task A cpu A running solo could donate
> vruntime to selected tasks pinned to cpu B, for as long as minuscule
> preemptions can resupply ammo. Would suck to not be the favored child.
IOW starving "non-favored" childs?
> Maybe you could exchange vruntimes cooperatively (iff same cfs_rq)
> between threads, but I don't think donations with clipping works.
Can't that lead to starvation again (as I pointed in a mail to Peterz):
p0 -> A0 B0 A1
A0/A1 enter a yield_to(other) deadlock, which means we keep swapping their
vruntimes, starving B0?
- vatsa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-03 13:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-02 19:41 [RFC PATCH 0/3] directed yield for Pause Loop Exiting Rik van Riel
2010-12-02 19:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] kvm: keep track of which task is running a KVM vcpu Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 1:18 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 14:50 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 15:55 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-05 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 12:17 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 14:16 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-05 12:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 19:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] sched: add yield_to function Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 0:50 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 18:27 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 19:30 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 21:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-03 5:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 13:46 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2010-12-03 14:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 15:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 15:35 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 16:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:09 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 17:29 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:33 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 17:45 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 20:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 21:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-03 13:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-03 13:30 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-03 14:06 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 14:10 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 21:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-04 13:02 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-10 4:34 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-10 8:39 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-10 14:55 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-08 17:55 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-08 20:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 20:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 22:59 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-02 19:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] kvm: use yield_to instead of sleep in kvm_vcpu_on_spin Rik van Riel
2010-12-03 2:24 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-05 12:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-05 12:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-08 22:38 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-09 10:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-09 17:07 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-11 7:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 22:41 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] directed yield for Pause Loop Exiting Chris Wright
2010-12-05 13:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-10 5:03 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-10 14:54 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-11 7:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-11 13:57 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-13 11:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 12:39 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-13 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 17:02 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-14 9:25 ` Balbir Singh
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