From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] sched: add yield_to function Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 23:15:34 +0530 Message-ID: <20101203174534.GD11725@linux.vnet.ibm.com> References: <1291355656.7633.124.camel@marge.simson.net> <20101203134618.GG27994@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1291387511.7992.15.camel@marge.simson.net> <4CF90341.4020101@redhat.com> <1291388987.7992.27.camel@marge.simson.net> <4CF90E3D.7090103@redhat.com> <20101203162003.GA13515@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CF9242D.4090007@redhat.com> <20101203172954.GC11725@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CF929E9.6000603@redhat.com> Reply-To: vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Mike Galbraith , kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Avi Kiviti , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , Anthony Liguori To: Rik van Riel Return-path: Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.152]:42588 "EHLO e34.co.us.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753726Ab0LCRpk (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Dec 2010 12:45:40 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CF929E9.6000603@redhat.com> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 12:33:29PM -0500, Rik van Riel wrote: > >Anyway, the intention of yield() proposed was not to get lock released > >immediately (which will happen eventually), but rather to avoid inefficiency > >associated with (long) spinning and at the same time make sure we are not > >leaking our bandwidth to other guests because of a naive yield .. > > A KVM guest can run on the host alongside short-lived > processes, though. How can we ensure that a VCPU that > donates time gets it back again later, when the task > time was donated to may no longer exist? I think that does not matter. What matters for fairness in this case is how much cpu time yielding thread gets over some (larger) time window. By ensuring that relinquished time is fedback, we should maintian fairness for that particular vcpu thread ..This also avoids nasty interactions associated with donation .. - vatsa