From: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>
To: Jesse Gross <jesse@nicira.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, dev@openvswitch.org,
virtualization@lists.osdl.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Flow Control and Port Mirroring Revisited
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:23:58 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110107012356.GA1257@verge.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinJK-nbkP5_ee2cuS8RA7jTB4-bcWmAf4bjSouP@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:38:01PM -0500, Jesse Gross wrote:
[ snip ]
>
> I know that everyone likes a nice netperf result but I agree with
> Michael that this probably isn't the right question to be asking. I
> don't think that socket buffers are a real solution to the flow
> control problem: they happen to provide that functionality but it's
> more of a side effect than anything. It's just that the amount of
> memory consumed by packets in the queue(s) doesn't really have any
> implicit meaning for flow control (think multiple physical adapters,
> all with the same speed instead of a virtual device and a physical
> device with wildly different speeds). The analog in the physical
> world that you're looking for would be Ethernet flow control.
> Obviously, if the question is limiting CPU or memory consumption then
> that's a different story.
Point taken. I will see if I can control CPU (and thus memory) consumption
using cgroups and/or tc.
> This patch also double counts memory, since the full size of the
> packet will be accounted for by each clone, even though they share the
> actual packet data. Probably not too significant here but it might be
> when flooding/mirroring to many interfaces. This is at least fixable
> (the Xen-style accounting through page tracking deals with it, though
> it has its own problems).
Agreed on all counts.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-07 1:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-06 9:33 Flow Control and Port Mirroring Revisited Simon Horman
2011-01-06 10:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-06 12:44 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-06 13:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-06 22:01 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-06 22:38 ` Jesse Gross
2011-01-07 1:23 ` Simon Horman [this message]
2011-01-10 9:31 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-13 6:47 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-13 15:45 ` Jesse Gross
2011-01-13 23:41 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-14 4:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-14 6:35 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-14 6:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-16 22:37 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-16 23:56 ` Rusty Russell
2011-01-17 10:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-17 10:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-18 19:41 ` Rick Jones
2011-01-18 20:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-18 21:28 ` Rick Jones
2011-01-19 9:11 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-20 8:38 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-21 2:30 ` Rick Jones
2011-01-21 9:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-21 18:04 ` Rick Jones
2011-01-21 23:11 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-22 21:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-23 6:38 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-23 10:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-23 13:53 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-24 18:27 ` Rick Jones
2011-01-24 18:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-24 19:01 ` Rick Jones
2011-01-24 19:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-06 10:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-06 11:30 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-06 12:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-06 12:29 ` Simon Horman
2011-01-06 12:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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