kvm.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Steve Dobbelstein <steved@us.ibm.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network performance with small packets
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:38:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110202183847.GA14829@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFD293DCD2.7F0260F0-ON86257823.0061DC39-86257823.00743BB3@us.ibm.com>

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 03:09:34PM -0600, Steve Dobbelstein wrote:
> 
> I am working on a KVM network performance issue found in our lab running
> the DayTrader benchmark.  The benchmark throughput takes a significant hit
> when running the application server in a KVM guest verses on bare metal.
> We have dug into the problem and found that DayTrader's use of small
> packets exposes KVM's overhead of handling network packets.  I have been
> able to reproduce the performance hit with a simpler setup using the
> netperf benchmark with the TCP_RR test and the request and response sizes
> set to 256 bytes.  I run the benchmark between two physical systems, each
> using a 1GB link.  In order to get the maximum throughput for the system I
> have to run 100 instances of netperf.  When I run the netserver processes
> in a guest, I see a maximum throughput that is 51% of what I get if I run
> the netserver processes directly on the host.  The CPU utilization in the
> guest is only 85% at maximum throughput, whereas it is 100% on bare metal.

You are stressing the scheduler pretty hard with this test :)
Is your real benchmark also using a huge number of threads?
If it's not, you might be seeing a different issue.
IOW, the netperf degradation might not be network-related at all,
but have to do with speed of context switch in guest.
Thoughts?

> The KVM host has 16 CPUs.  The KVM guest is configured with 2 VCPUs.  When
> I run netperf on the host I boot the host with maxcpus=2 on the kernel
> command line.  The host is running the current KVM upstream kernel along
> with the current upstream qemu.  Here is the qemu command used to launch
> the guest:
> /build/qemu-kvm/x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 -name glasgow-RH60 -m 32768 -drive file=/build/guest-data/glasgow-RH60.img,if=virtio,index=0,boot=on
>  -drive file=/dev/virt/WAS,if=virtio,index=1 -net nic,model=virtio,vlan=3,macaddr=00:1A:64:E5:00:63,netdev=nic0 -netdev tap,id=nic0,vhost=on -smp 2
> -vnc :1 -monitor telnet::4499,server,nowait -serial telnet::8899,server,nowait --mem-path /libhugetlbfs -daemonize
> 
> We have tried various proposed fixes, each with varying amounts of success.
> One such fix was to add code to the vhost thread such that when it found
> the work queue empty it wouldn't just exit the thread but rather would
> delay for 50 microseconds and then recheck the queue.  If there was work on
> the queue it would loop back and process it, else it would exit the thread.
> The change got us a 13% improvement in the DayTrader throughput.
> 
> Running the same netperf configuration on the same hardware but using a
> different hypervisor gets us significantly better throughput numbers.   The
> guest on that hypervisor runs at 100% CPU utilization.  The various fixes
> we have tried have not gotten us close to the throughput seen on the other
> hypervisor.  I'm looking for ideas/input from the KVM experts on how to
> make KVM perform better when handling small packets.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> 
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-02 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-25 21:09 Network performance with small packets Steve Dobbelstein
2011-01-26 15:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-27 18:44   ` Shirley Ma
2011-01-27 19:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-27 19:09       ` Shirley Ma
2011-01-27 19:31         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-27 19:45           ` Shirley Ma
2011-01-27 20:05             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-27 20:15               ` Shirley Ma
2011-01-28 18:29                 ` Steve Dobbelstein
2011-01-28 22:51                   ` Steve Dobbelstein
2011-02-01 15:52                   ` [PATCHv2 dontapply] vhost-net tx tuning Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-01 23:07                     ` Sridhar Samudrala
2011-02-01 23:27                       ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02  4:36                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-27 21:02               ` Network performance with small packets David Miller
2011-01-27 21:30                 ` Shirley Ma
2011-01-28 12:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-01  0:24                     ` Steve Dobbelstein
2011-02-01  1:30                       ` Sridhar Samudrala
2011-02-01  5:56                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-01 21:09                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-01 21:24                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-01 21:32                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-01 21:42                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-01 21:53                                 ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-01 21:56                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-01 22:59                                     ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02  4:40                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02  6:05                                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02  6:19                                           ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02  6:29                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02  7:14                                               ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02  7:33                                                 ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 10:49                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 15:42                                                     ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 15:48                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 17:12                                                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 18:20                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 18:26                                                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 10:48                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02  6:34                                             ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-02-02  7:03                                               ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02  7:37                                                 ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-02-02 10:48                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 15:39                                                 ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 15:47                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 17:10                                                     ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 17:32                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 18:11                                                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 18:27                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 19:29                                                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 20:17                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 21:03                                                                 ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-02 21:20                                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02 21:41                                                                     ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-03  5:59                                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-03  6:09                                                                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-03  6:16                                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-03  5:05                                                                     ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-03  6:13                                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-03 15:58                                                                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-03 16:20                                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-03 17:18                                                                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-01  5:54                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-01 17:23                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                     ` <1296590943.26937.797.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                       ` <20110201201715.GA30050@redhat.com>
2011-02-01 20:25                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-01 21:21                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-01 21:28                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-02-01 21:41                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-02  4:39                                 ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-02-02  4:42                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-09  0:37                                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-02-09  0:53                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-09  1:39                                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-02-09  1:55                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-02-09  7:43                                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-08 21:57                                       ` Shirley Ma
2011-03-09  2:21                                         ` Andrew Theurer
2011-03-09 15:42                                           ` Shirley Ma
2011-03-10  1:49                                           ` Rusty Russell
2011-04-12 20:01                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-04-14 11:28                                               ` Rusty Russell
2011-04-14 12:40                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-04-14 16:03                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-04-19  0:33                                                   ` Rusty Russell
2011-02-02 18:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-02-02 19:15   ` Steve Dobbelstein

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20110202183847.GA14829@redhat.com \
    --to=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=steved@us.ibm.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).