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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	penberg@kernel.org, john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	asias.hejun@gmail.com, gorcunov@gmail.com,
	prasadjoshi124@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5 V2] kvm tools: Initialize and use VESA and VNC
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:50:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110524085024.GA31453@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDB6E55.8080408@redhat.com>


* Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 05/23/2011 01:38 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> > Later on even this could be removed: using section tricks we can put init 
> > functions into a section
> 
> This is not kernel space, the C library provides a way to do that
> with __attribute__((constructor))...

Yeah, that would certainly work for simple things but there's several reasons 
why explicit control over initcalls is preferred in a tool like tools/kvm/ over 
__attribute__((constructor)):

 - C constructors run before main() so any generic environment that tools/kvm/
   might want to set up is not available yet - including but not limited to the
   command line arguments.

 - C constructors have random limitations like apparently not being executed if
   the constructor is linked into a .a static library.

 - It has advantages to have explicit control over initcalls - that way
   debugging and other instrumentation can be added freely. For example the
   kernel has a debug_initcall boot parameter to print the initcalls as they
   are executed. They can also be traced.

 - The kernel has several classes of initcalls with different call priority,
   i'm not aware of an equivalent __attribute__((constructor)) capability.
   We could also do more sophisticated layers of initcalls or an explicit
   initcall dependency tree, should the need arise.

Using .section tricks directly isnt particularly complex and the result is 
rather flexible, well-defined and visible.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-24  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-23 11:19 [PATCH 1/5 V2] kvm tools: Add BIOS INT10 handler Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 2/5 V2] kvm tools: Add video mode to kernel initialization Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 3/5 V2] kvm tools: Add VESA device Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 4/5 V2] kvm tools: Update makefile and feature tests Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 5/5 V2] kvm tools: Initialize and use VESA and VNC Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:45     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24  8:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24  8:50       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-24  9:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24  9:55           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:22             ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:26               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:30                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-24 11:30                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:38                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:41                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:56                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 12:27                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 14:38                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 14:37                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 14:54                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 19:03                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 19:00                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 19:16           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  9:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 19:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  8:21             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  8:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  9:15                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  9:36                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:01                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 10:17                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:44                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 12:53                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 15:37                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  9:49                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  8:38               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  8:51       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-23 14:10   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-23 11:29 ` [PATCH 1/5 V2] kvm tools: Add BIOS INT10 handler Ingo Molnar

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