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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	penberg@kernel.org, john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	asias.hejun@gmail.com, gorcunov@gmail.com,
	prasadjoshi124@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5 V2] kvm tools: Initialize and use VESA and VNC
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 10:38:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110525083825.GG21552@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDCBC08.3030507@redhat.com>


* Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:

> > ((constructor)) has showstopper properties:
> >
> > - We don't have access to the program arguments
> >
> > - stdio is probably not set up yet (this is undefined AFAICS)
> 
> As I said, you can do this even better by doing only minimal work in
> the constructor. [...]

The costs of doing that:

  - extra per init entry data structures

  - extra code being run during the constructor phase

  - the risk of not getting the ((constructor)) init run at all,
    such as on static libraries

The only benefit is:

  - ((constructor)) is a non-portable GCC extension so the only portability
    win is to possibly support non-ELF targets. Which ones do we care about?

At this point it is a rather legitimate technical decision for us to say that 
we do not want to bear those cost for that limited benefit, wouldn't you agree?

If someone adds non-ELF support then it can all be switched over to the bit 
more bloated ((constructor)) approach rather easily - so this all is a 
non-issue really.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-25  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-23 11:19 [PATCH 1/5 V2] kvm tools: Add BIOS INT10 handler Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 2/5 V2] kvm tools: Add video mode to kernel initialization Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 3/5 V2] kvm tools: Add VESA device Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 4/5 V2] kvm tools: Update makefile and feature tests Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 5/5 V2] kvm tools: Initialize and use VESA and VNC Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:45     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24  8:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24  8:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  9:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24  9:55           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:22             ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:26               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:30                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-24 11:30                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:38                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:41                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:56                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 12:27                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 14:38                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 14:37                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 14:54                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 19:03                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 19:00                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 19:16           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  9:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 19:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  8:21             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  8:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  9:15                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  9:36                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:01                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 10:17                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:44                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 12:53                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 15:37                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  9:49                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  8:38               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-24  8:51       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-23 14:10   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-23 11:29 ` [PATCH 1/5 V2] kvm tools: Add BIOS INT10 handler Ingo Molnar

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