From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
penberg@kernel.org, john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
asias.hejun@gmail.com, gorcunov@gmail.com,
prasadjoshi124@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5 V2] kvm tools: Initialize and use VESA and VNC
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:36:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110525093611.GD28500@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDCC8A0.8050708@redhat.com>
* Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> > So you claim that ((section)) is 'not portable' but concede that
> > it does in fact not port to one of the most widely used
> > compilers.
>
> Can you please avoid trimming messages? I said "the differences
> between MSVC and GCC can easily be abstracted with a macro". This
> is not unlike other differences between the two compilers (e.g.
> __forceinline vs. the ((always_inline)) attribute), and it is not
> true of linker scripts.
So ((constructor)) is unportable but it can be wrapped. So can other
portability problems be solved, such as linker scripts can be written
for non-ELF targets (should that ever become necessary), so what's
your point?
We want to use ELF sections in the future *anyway* to make tools/kvm/
scale even better, for example to use alternative instruction fixups
(for which no GCC extension exists) so a linker script will be there
anyway. ( We might also want to use sections to speed up exception
handling in tools/kvm/. )
Fact is that neither ((section)) *NOR* ((constructor)) is portable:
*both* are GCC extensions - while you falsely claimed that
((constructor)) was somehow portable and that ((section)) was an
'unportable trick'. Let me quote your initial claim:
>>>>> I know portability is not relevant to tools/kvm/, but using
>>>>> unportable tricks for the sake of using them is a direct way to
>>>>> NIH. But oh well all of tools/kvm/ is NIH after all. :)
Btw., that NIH claim was rather unfair and uncalled for as well.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-25 9:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-23 11:19 [PATCH 1/5 V2] kvm tools: Add BIOS INT10 handler Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 2/5 V2] kvm tools: Add video mode to kernel initialization Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 3/5 V2] kvm tools: Add VESA device Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 4/5 V2] kvm tools: Update makefile and feature tests Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 5/5 V2] kvm tools: Initialize and use VESA and VNC Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 8:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 9:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 9:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:22 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:26 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:30 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-24 11:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:56 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 12:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 14:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 14:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 19:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 19:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 19:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 9:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 19:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 8:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 8:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 9:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 9:36 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-25 10:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 10:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 12:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 15:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 9:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 8:51 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-23 14:10 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-23 11:29 ` [PATCH 1/5 V2] kvm tools: Add BIOS INT10 handler Ingo Molnar
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