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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	penberg@kernel.org, john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	asias.hejun@gmail.com, gorcunov@gmail.com,
	prasadjoshi124@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5 V2] kvm tools: Initialize and use VESA and VNC
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:53:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110525125335.GD29300@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDCDD84.8010800@redhat.com>


* Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 05/25/2011 12:17 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> > Also it's not clear why ((constructor)) was written in the way it 
> > was: why apparently no access is given to the array of init 
> > functions
> 
> It is accessible---glibc uses it.
> 
> > and why it's not possible to turn the auto-execution off but 
> > still have the array generated, for legitimate cases that want to 
> > use data driven constructor execution.
> 
> The compiler doesn't care about what is done with the data.  It 
> simply provides the table for the runtime library to use it. 
> ((constructor)) is a veneer over the same infrastructure used for 
> C++ global constructors; that explains its design pretty well.

Obviously the compiler did not provide this feature into a vacuum, it 
expected the C library to execute constructors, right?

So the above dodges my question of why there is no method (in glibc) 
to turn auto-execution off and let the app do it.

If all that was possible then ((constructor)) could certainly be used 
as a generalized shortcut for certain ((section)) uses.

> > the ((section)) approach we could create a clear runtime BUG_ON() 
> > assert for a zero-sized array of init function pointers,
> 
> Not really.  The problem is that f1.o is not pulled from the static 
> library _because the linker thinks it is not necessary_.  If f1.o 
> defines another symbol, and f.o uses it, then the constructor is 
> pulled in together with the rest of f.o.  As soon as _one_ 
> constructor is pulled in (even from outside the static library), 
> your BUG() would not detect silently missing imports anymore.

Yeah, good point.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-25 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-23 11:19 [PATCH 1/5 V2] kvm tools: Add BIOS INT10 handler Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 2/5 V2] kvm tools: Add video mode to kernel initialization Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 3/5 V2] kvm tools: Add VESA device Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 4/5 V2] kvm tools: Update makefile and feature tests Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:19 ` [PATCH 5/5 V2] kvm tools: Initialize and use VESA and VNC Sasha Levin
2011-05-23 11:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 11:45     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24  8:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24  8:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  9:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24  9:55           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:22             ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:26               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:30                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-24 11:30                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:38                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 11:41                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 11:56                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 12:27                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 14:38                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 14:37                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-24 14:54                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-24 19:03                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 19:00                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 19:16           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  9:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-24 19:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  8:21             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  8:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  9:15                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  9:36                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:01                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 10:17                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:44                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25 12:53                           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-25 15:37                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-25  9:49                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25  8:38               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  8:51       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-23 14:10   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-23 11:29 ` [PATCH 1/5 V2] kvm tools: Add BIOS INT10 handler Ingo Molnar

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