From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com,
gorcunov@gmail.com, prasadjoshi124@gmail.com,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:11:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110527141125.GC30292@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110527110729.GA26920@elte.hu>
* Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
>
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> > > This code is very much tied with the kernel scheduler. [...]
> >
> > It would not be particularly complex to enable user-space to
> > request a callback on context switch events.
> >
> > I was thinking on and off about allowing perf events to generate a
> > per sampling event notification signal on specific events, such as
> > page faults or context switches.
>
> I was thinking about that on and off so loudly that Peter implemented
> it long ago via fasync support on the perf event fd! :-)
>
> So if you set a notification signal via fcntl(F_SETOWN) on the
> scheduler context switch event fd, the user-space RCU code will get a
> signal on every context switch.
>
> I have not tried it for this purpose yet, so let us know if there are
> unexpected complications :)
I'm worried about the following complications:
Let's define per-process, per-cpu data structures, mapped in userland,
that keep track of the per-cpu read-side C.S. nesting count. Let say we
use this signal-based mechanism to inform userland of migrations.
1) The first thing I notice is that we're not informed of threads being
blocked. So multiple threads taking read-side C.S. in turn on the
same CPU as they are being scheduled will corrupt each other's
read-side C.S. counter.
2) The second thing I notice is that there is no form of synchronization
between the userland execution and delivery of this signal, which
leads to interesting race conditions.
Any thoughts on how to address these ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-27 14:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-26 14:25 [PATCH 1/6] kvm tools: Prevent double assignment of guest memory info Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 2/6] kvm tools: Exit VCPU thread only when SIGKVMEXIT is received Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 3/6] kvm tools: Protect IRQ allocations by a mutex Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:02 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 18:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:11 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 18:57 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 23:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 10:19 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 10:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 15:52 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 17:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 20:19 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-28 15:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 16:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-28 19:45 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-29 6:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 15:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 3:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 16:22 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 13:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:01 ` RCU red-black tree (was: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper) Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:48 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 2:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 6:07 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 11:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:52 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 18:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 19:11 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:05 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 13:20 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 15:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 19:09 ` Prasad Joshi
2011-05-31 19:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 14:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 3:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30 11:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-26 20:25 ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 23:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27 9:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 12:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 17:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 14:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 14:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2011-05-28 18:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-28 18:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 6:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 7:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 7:54 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 14:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 15:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 3:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30 8:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 18:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-27 13:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 5/6] kvm tools: Protect MMIO tree by rwsem Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 6/6] kvm tools: Protect IOPORT " Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
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