From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com,
gorcunov@gmail.com, prasadjoshi124@gmail.com,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:10:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110527171040.GC4356@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1306511560.3217.23.camel@lappy>
* Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 12:36 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I see that in liburcu there is an implementation of a rcu linked
> > > list but no implementation of a rb-tree.
> >
> > Another approach would be, until the RCU interactions are sorted out,
> > to implement a 'big reader lock' thing that is completely lockless on
> > the read side (!).
> >
> > It works well if the write side is expensive, but very rare: which is
> > certainly the case for these ioport registration data structures used
> > in the mmio event demux fast path!
> >
> > The write_lock() side signals all worker threads to finish whatever
> > they are doing now and to wait for the write_unlock(). Then the
> > modification can be done and the worker threads can be resumed.
> >
> > This can be updated to RCU later on without much trouble.
> >
> > The advantage is that this could be implemented with the existing
> > thread-pool primitives straight away i think, we'd need five
> > primitives:
> >
> > bread_lock();
> > bread_unlock();
> > bwrite_lock();
> > bwrite_lock();
> >
> > brlock_init();
> >
> > and a data type:
> >
> > struct brlock;
> >
> > bread_lock()/bread_unlock() is basically just a compiler barrier.
> > bwrite_lock() stops all (other) worker threads.
> > bwrite_unlock() resumes them.
> >
> > That's all - should be 50 lines of code, unless i'm missing something
> > :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ingo
>
> Isn't there something similar to this in the kernel?
Yeah, there's include/linux/lglock.h.
> I prefer not implementing a new lock type at the moment mostly because
> we're not tackling a bug or an immediate problem, we don't really need
> locking at the moment (we add all devices at init and don't support
> hotplug yet). So I'd rather not write code just to solve it faster but
> have it thrown away later.
We don't have to throw it away: RCU is rather complex to pull off
here, and in many cases, where writes are very rare, brlocks are the
best solution even with RCU present.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-27 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-26 14:25 [PATCH 1/6] kvm tools: Prevent double assignment of guest memory info Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 2/6] kvm tools: Exit VCPU thread only when SIGKVMEXIT is received Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 3/6] kvm tools: Protect IRQ allocations by a mutex Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:02 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 18:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:11 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 18:57 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 23:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 10:19 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 10:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 15:52 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 17:10 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-27 20:19 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-28 15:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 16:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-28 19:45 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-29 6:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 15:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 3:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 16:22 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 13:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:01 ` RCU red-black tree (was: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper) Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:48 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 2:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 6:07 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 11:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:52 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 18:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 19:11 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:05 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 13:20 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 15:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 19:09 ` Prasad Joshi
2011-05-31 19:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 14:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 3:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30 11:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-26 20:25 ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 23:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27 9:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 12:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 17:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 14:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 14:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-28 18:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-28 18:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 6:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 7:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 7:54 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 14:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 15:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 3:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30 8:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 18:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-27 13:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 5/6] kvm tools: Protect MMIO tree by rwsem Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 6/6] kvm tools: Protect IOPORT " Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
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