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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com,
	gorcunov@gmail.com, prasadjoshi124@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 09:44:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110528164447.GA29707@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110528152408.GA27104@elte.hu>

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 05:24:08PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > So the basic plan here is to allocate a futex(?) for each VCPU 
> > thread, and have the writer thread lock all futexes when it needs 
> > to write?
> > 
> > If we assume we only have one writer thread, it can stay pretty 
> > simple.
> 
> We can use an even simpler and more scalable method:
> 
>   - writers can 'stop' all other threads, by sending them a 
>     threadpool signal and waiting for each thread to have completed 
>     processing their current work and notifying the writer back that 
>     they have stopped running.
> 
> This means that the read-side lock is _zero instructions_, basically 
> just a barrier() to make sure the compiler does not move instructions 
> across threadpool functions (it wont).
> 
> This method requires that we know about every worker thread - i.e. 
> no-one does a stray pthread_create() and uses data structures from 
> there. It also requires that each worker thread can 'stop' within a 
> reasonable amount of time.

Yep, this should work -- similar to use of stop_machine() in the kernel,
but without the need for worker threads to disable preemption because
there is no need for separate "cpu" and "task" concepts like there is
in the kernel.

The updates are quite heavyweight and they must block all readers,
but if updates are infrequent enough, this clearly won't be a problem.

Simpler than porting TREE_RCU to userspace as well, though I might do
that some time just for grins.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-28 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-26 14:25 [PATCH 1/6] kvm tools: Prevent double assignment of guest memory info Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 2/6] kvm tools: Exit VCPU thread only when SIGKVMEXIT is received Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 3/6] kvm tools: Protect IRQ allocations by a mutex Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:02   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 18:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:11         ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:21           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 18:57             ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 23:09               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 10:19                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 10:36                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 15:52                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 17:10                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 20:19                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-28 15:24                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 16:44                             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-05-28 19:45                             ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-29  6:47                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29  7:19                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 15:51                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:54                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30  3:12                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 16:22                                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 13:14                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:01                     ` RCU red-black tree (was: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper) Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:48                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30  2:54                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30  6:07                           ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 11:30                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:38                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:50                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:52                               ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 18:57                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 19:11                                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:05                                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:09                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 13:20                                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 15:25                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 19:09                                           ` Prasad Joshi
2011-05-31 19:31                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 14:55                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30  3:38                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30 11:18                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-26 20:25             ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 23:05               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27  0:58                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27  9:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 12:48                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:19                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:29                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:36                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 17:22                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27 10:25                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:07                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:24                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 14:18                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 14:11                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-28 18:12                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-28 18:32                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29  6:41                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29  7:35                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29  7:54                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 12:37                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 12:48                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 14:27                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:00                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 15:38                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:33                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30  3:07                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30  8:12                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:22                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:31                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 18:14                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-27 13:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 5/6] kvm tools: Protect MMIO tree by rwsem Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 6/6] kvm tools: Protect IOPORT " Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:01   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19     ` Sasha Levin

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