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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com,
	gorcunov@gmail.com, prasadjoshi124@gmail.com,
	Phil Howard <csbetterthanjava@gmail.com>,
	rp@svcs.cs.pdx.edu
Subject: Re: RCU red-black tree (was: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 20:38:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110530033831.GP2668@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110529170104.GA17189@Krystal>

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 01:01:04PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Mathieu Desnoyers (mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com) wrote:
> > * Sasha Levin (levinsasha928@gmail.com) wrote:
> [...]
> > > Hi Mathieu!
> > > 
> > > In tools/kvm/ we use a rb-tree (same one used by the kernel) with the
> > > augmentation feature to support an interval rb-tree - which means that
> > > every update to the tree not only updates the nodes directly related to
> > > the updated node but also all the nodes on the path to the root of the
> > > tree.
> > 
> > Cool !!
> > 
> > I'm adding in copy Phil Howard who has been working on RCU RB tree for
> > much longer than myself.
> > 
> > > I see that in liburcu there is an implementation of a rcu linked list
> > > but no implementation of a rb-tree.
> > > 
> > > Are you currently working on one? or maybe I should try writing one and
> > > sending it to you?
> > 
> > Actually, I started working on one last year, but had to interrupt my
> > effort before I got it even working right.
> [...]
> > We'd have to see how we can go from this implementation of a standard RB
> > tree to an interval RB tree too. I guess it will depend whether you need
> > the updates from the target node up to the root to be done "all at once"
> > from a reader perspective (then you would probably need to replace a
> > copy of a part of the tree all at once), or if you can allow the update
> > to be done piece-wise on a node-by-node basis as readers go through the
> > tree (from root to leafs).
> 
> I've revisited the RCU rbtree implementation this weekend, and it works
> much better now. I reimplemented the whole thing from 0 starting from
> the CLRS chapter 12 algorithms (to get the non-rcu
> (insertion/removal)-only stress-tests working) and incrementally
> RCU-ized the updates and then added read-side tests. All along, I used
> the test_urcu_rbtree test case that does some basic coherency tests by
> searching for some random elements that *should* be there in parellel
> with insertion and removals. The implementation I currently have
> survives the "search for known elements in parallel with updates" stress
> test (so far). (e.g.  test_urcu_rbtree 6 2 10 -g 30 : 6 readers, 2
> writers, 30 known random elements, writers are adding/removing 6 random
> elements, on a 8-core machine)
> 
> See: git://git.lttng.org/userspace-rcu.git
>      branch : rbtree2
> 
> The key idea I used in this implementation is to "decay" the old nodes
> (AFAIK, I just made this up) : "decaying" a node could be best described
> as creating an exact copy of a node, and putting a pointer to this new
> node into the old node to form a "decay chain". This allowed me to keep
> the algorithm very much similar to CLRS by just walking the decay chains
> whenever needed. The old node "decays" by using call_rcu to free it
> after a grace period passes. This imply that the updates must hold the
> RCU read-side lock in addition to a mutex to make sure the decaying
> nodes stay valid for the duration of their use.
> 
> This implementation never requires the read-side to loop, thus
> guaranteeing a wait-free read-side behavior (so search operations will
> always be strictly log(n) without any busy-loop delay).
> 
> I have not created stress-tests for next/prev walk of the tree yet. It
> is therefore entirely possible that this does not work as expected.
> 
> Comments are welcome,

Very cool!

The trick Phil Howard used allowed him to avoid duplicating the nodes
in some cases in the rotations.  I might be missing something, but it
looks like you are duplicating in all cases.  Would using Phil's trick
result in significant performance gain?

							Thanx, Paul

> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mathieu
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mathieu Desnoyers
> > Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
> > EfficiOS Inc.
> > http://www.efficios.com
> 
> -- 
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-30  3:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-26 14:25 [PATCH 1/6] kvm tools: Prevent double assignment of guest memory info Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 2/6] kvm tools: Exit VCPU thread only when SIGKVMEXIT is received Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 3/6] kvm tools: Protect IRQ allocations by a mutex Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:02   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 18:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:11         ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:21           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 18:57             ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 23:09               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 10:19                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 10:36                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 15:52                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 17:10                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 20:19                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-28 15:24                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 16:44                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-28 19:45                             ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-29  6:47                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29  7:19                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 15:51                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:54                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30  3:12                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 16:22                                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 13:14                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:01                     ` RCU red-black tree (was: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper) Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:48                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30  2:54                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30  6:07                           ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 11:30                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:38                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:50                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:52                               ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 18:57                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 19:11                                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:05                                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:09                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 13:20                                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 15:25                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 19:09                                           ` Prasad Joshi
2011-05-31 19:31                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 14:55                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30  3:38                       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-05-30 11:18                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-26 20:25             ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 23:05               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27  0:58                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27  9:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 12:48                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:19                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:29                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:36                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 17:22                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27 10:25                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:07                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:24                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 14:18                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 14:11                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-28 18:12                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-28 18:32                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29  6:41                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29  7:35                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29  7:54                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 12:37                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 12:48                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 14:27                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:00                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 15:38                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:33                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30  3:07                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30  8:12                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:22                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:31                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 18:14                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-27 13:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 5/6] kvm tools: Protect MMIO tree by rwsem Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 6/6] kvm tools: Protect IOPORT " Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:01   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19     ` Sasha Levin

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