From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp>,
Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com, gorcunov@gmail.com,
prasadjoshi124@gmail.com,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/8] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 14:36:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110530123602.GK22324@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DE387DA.3020307@redhat.com>
* Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 05/30/2011 02:49 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >* Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/30/2011 02:26 PM, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> qemu also allows having more VCPUs than cores.
> >> >
> >> >I have to check again, then :) Thank you!
> >> >I will try both with many VCPUs.
> >>
> >> Note, with cpu overcommit the results are going to be bad.
> >
> >And that is good: if pushed hard enough it will trigger exciting (or
> >obscure) bugs in the guest kernel much faster than if there's no
> >overcommit, so it's rather useful for testing. (We made that
> >surprising experience with -rt.)
> >
> >Also, such simulation would be very obviously useful if you get
> >bugreports about 1024 or 4096 CPUs, like i do sometimes! :-) [*]
>
> I'll be surprised if 1024 cpus actually boot on a reasonable
> machine. Without PLE support, any busy wait (like
> smp_call_function_single()) turns into a delay the length scheduler
> time slice (or CFS's unfairness measure, I forget how it's called)
> - 3 or 4 orders of magnitude larger. Even with PLE, it's
> significantly slower, plus 1-2 orders of magnitude loss from the
> overcommit itself.
You are probably right about 1024 CPUs.
Right now i can produce something similar to it: 42 vcpus on a single
CPU:
$ taskse 1 kvm run --cpus 42
And that hangs early on during bootup, around:
[ 0.236000] Disabled fast string operations
[ 0.242000] #4
[ 0.270000] Disabled fast string operations
[ 0.275000] #5
[ 0.317000] Disabled fast string operations
[ 0.322000] #6
[ 0.352000] Disabled fast string operations
[ 0.358000] #7
[ 0.414000] Disabled fast string operations
The threads seem to be livelocked:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
22227 mingo 20 0 471g 95m 904 R 12.9 0.8 0:06.39 kvm
22230 mingo 20 0 471g 95m 904 R 12.9 0.8 0:06.36 kvm
22226 mingo 20 0 471g 95m 904 R 11.9 0.8 0:07.04 kvm
22228 mingo 20 0 471g 95m 904 R 11.9 0.8 0:06.38 kvm
22229 mingo 20 0 471g 95m 904 R 11.9 0.8 0:06.37 kvm
22231 mingo 20 0 471g 95m 904 R 11.9 0.8 0:06.37 kvm
22232 mingo 20 0 471g 95m 904 R 11.9 0.8 0:06.36 kvm
22233 mingo 20 0 471g 95m 904 R 11.9 0.8 0:06.33 kvm
7 root -2 19 0 0 0 S 2.0 0.0 1:12.53 rcuc0
with no apparent progress being made.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-30 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-30 8:30 [PATCH v2 1/8] kvm tools: Use correct value for user signal base Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] kvm tools: Remove wrong global definition of kvm Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 8:59 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:30 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] kvm tools: Allow pausing guests Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 8:30 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] kvm tools: Pause/resume guest using SIGUSR2 Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 8:30 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] kvm tools: Add a brlock Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:30 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 9:29 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-30 9:34 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 9:40 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-30 9:46 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 9:48 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-30 9:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 11:11 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2011-05-30 11:12 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 11:26 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2011-05-30 11:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 11:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-30 11:58 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 12:22 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 12:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 12:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-30 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 14:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 14:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 14:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 14:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 19:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 12:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 12:36 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-30 12:44 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 12:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-30 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 13:05 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-03 7:27 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-03 7:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-03 7:54 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-03 19:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-03 19:56 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-03 20:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-03 21:03 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-03 21:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-03 22:54 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-03 23:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-04 6:26 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-04 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-14 22:26 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-14 23:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-15 1:25 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-15 4:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-05 12:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-30 14:16 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2011-05-30 9:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 10:05 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 10:22 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 10:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 10:41 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:30 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] kvm tools: Add debug mode to brlock Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:30 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] kvm tools: Use brlock in MMIO and IOPORT Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 8:56 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] kvm tools: Use correct value for user signal base Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30 8:40 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 8:49 ` Ingo Molnar
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