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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Prasad Joshi <prasadjoshi124@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, penberg@kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com,
	gorcunov@gmail.com, levinsasha928@gmail.com,
	chaitanyakulkarni15@gmail.com, ashwini.kulkarni@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kvm tools: Add QCOW level2 caching support
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 11:16:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110602091617.GA9615@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110602072850.GC2150@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> This introduces a ~1msec delay and thus simulates IO, but the 
> delays are *constant* [make sure you use a high-res timers kernel], 
> so they do not result in nearly as much measurement noise as real 
> block IO does.
> 
> The IO delays will still be there, so any caching advantages (and 
> CPU overhead reductions) will be measurable very clearly.
> 
> This way you are basically 'emulating' a real disk drive but you 
> will emulate uniform latencies, which makes measurements a lot more 
> reliable - while still relevant to the end result.
> 
> So if under such a measurement model you can prove an improvement 
> with a patch, that improvement will be there with real disks as 
> well - just harder to prove.

Another risk that the current situation carries in itself, beyond 
making it more difficult to measure improvements, is that based on a 
"bad" Bonnie outlier or artifact you might throw away a perfectly 
good change accidentally!

So whenever you think you are fighting noise you need to improve your 
measurements, as entropy is a pretty tough opponent to beat.

Thanks,

	Ingo

      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-02  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01 19:26 [PATCH v2] kvm tools: Add QCOW level2 caching support Prasad Joshi
2011-06-02  7:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02  8:36   ` Prasad Joshi
2011-06-02  8:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 16:59     ` Prasad Joshi
2011-06-02  9:16   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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