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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Daniel Gollub <gollub@b1-systems.de>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Introduce panic hypercall
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:04:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110621060428.GC491@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DFF8208.7060401@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:23:20PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 06/20/2011 08:13 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>  A watchdog has the advantage that is also detects lockups.
> >>
> >>  In fact you could implement the panic device via the existing
> >>  watchdogs.  Simply program the timer for the minimum interval and
> >>  *don't* service the interrupt.  This would work for non-virt setups as
> >>  well as another way to issue a reset.
> >
> >If you manage to bring down the other guest CPUs fast enough. Otherwise,
> >they may corrupt your crashdump before the host had a chance to collect
> >all pieces. Synchronous signaling to the hypervisor is a bit safer.
> 
> You could NMI-IPI them.  But I agree a synchronous signal is better
> (note it's not race-free itself).
> 
But kexec/kdump has exactly same race, so this is at least not worse that
alternative.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-21  6:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-20 13:38 [PATCH 0/2] Introduce panic hypercall Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 13:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] Inroduce panic hypercall KVM_HC_PANIC (host) Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 13:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] Call KVM_HC_PANIC if guest panics Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 15:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce panic hypercall Avi Kivity
2011-06-20 15:38   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-20 15:45     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-20 15:59       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-20 16:26       ` Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 16:34         ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-20 17:13           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-20 17:23             ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  6:04               ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2011-06-21  6:02           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  8:09             ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  8:41               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  8:56                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  9:03                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  9:07                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  9:30               ` shawn che
2011-06-20 19:28   ` Anthony Liguori

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